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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 12:44 am
MAXWELL INTERVIEW
by U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
Released: 8/22/25
https://survivorbb.rapeutation.com/view ... 800#p41365
10 TODD BLANCHE: Let's just go a few more
11 minutes and take a break, I know it's after lunch.
12 So do you -- we talked several hours ago
13 about your father and his business a little bit.
14 After your father passed, do you know
15 whether Mr. Epstein was involved in your family
16 business, that you know of?
17 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Absolutely not, in any
18 respect. First of all, there was no family business
19 left. Start with that problem. And the second one
20 is, my family didn't like him very much. And they
21 were busy dealing with their own problems and there
22 was no relationship whatsoever.
23 Oh, I mean, he -- my mum and he got along
24 quite well. That was it. But that was -- she's an
25 old lady and, you know, he was nice to her.
Page 164
1 TODD BLANCHE: We're repeat -- we're now
2 being a little repetitive, but you're confident that
3 before you met Mr. Epstein, he didn't know your
4 father, and so there's no -- he wouldn't have done
5 business with your father's companies in the '80s
6 either.
7 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Absolutely not. I'm a
8 hundred percent sure of that. I never met him. I
9 never saw him. I never heard his name. No.
10 Nothing.
by U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
Released: 8/22/25
https://survivorbb.rapeutation.com/view ... 800#p41365
10 TODD BLANCHE: Let's just go a few more
11 minutes and take a break, I know it's after lunch.
12 So do you -- we talked several hours ago
13 about your father and his business a little bit.
14 After your father passed, do you know
15 whether Mr. Epstein was involved in your family
16 business, that you know of?
17 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Absolutely not, in any
18 respect. First of all, there was no family business
19 left. Start with that problem. And the second one
20 is, my family didn't like him very much. And they
21 were busy dealing with their own problems and there
22 was no relationship whatsoever.
23 Oh, I mean, he -- my mum and he got along
24 quite well. That was it. But that was -- she's an
25 old lady and, you know, he was nice to her.
Page 164
1 TODD BLANCHE: We're repeat -- we're now
2 being a little repetitive, but you're confident that
3 before you met Mr. Epstein, he didn't know your
4 father, and so there's no -- he wouldn't have done
5 business with your father's companies in the '80s
6 either.
7 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Absolutely not. I'm a
8 hundred percent sure of that. I never met him. I
9 never saw him. I never heard his name. No.
10 Nothing.
According to former Israeli military intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe, who I first interviewed in December 2019, Epstein’s affiliation with Israeli intelligence dated back at least to the mid-1980s, when Ben-Menashe was personally introduced to Epstein by Robert Maxwell. Per Ben-Menashe, Maxwell introduced Epstein as having been approved by the "higher ups" in the Israeli intelligence network where Ben-Menashe and Maxwell were both operating. The introduction reportedly occurred at Maxwell’s offices in London.85
During this period, Ben-Menashe has stated that he believes one of these "higher ups" was Ehud Barak, the future Prime Minister of Israel who was head of the Israeli military intelligence directorate AMAN from 1983 to 1985. Ben-Menashe could not recall the exact date of his introduction to Epstein, but stated that it occurred within that 1983-1985 period in which Barak held this post. Barak would later become infamous for his close proximity, not only to Epstein, but his sex trafficking/sex blackmail operation, which is discussed in the next chapter.
In a September 2019 interview with journalist and former CBS News producer Zev Shalev, he stated "he [Maxwell] wanted us to accept him [Epstein] as part of our group.… I’m not denying that we were at the time a group that it was Nick Davies [Foreign Editor of the Maxwell-Owned Daily Mirror], it was Maxwell, it was myself and our team from Israel, we were doing what we were doing."86
Past reporting by Seymour Hersh and others revealed that Maxwell, Davies, and Ben-Menashe were involved in the transfer and sale of military equipment and weapons from Israel to Iran on behalf of Israeli intelligence during this time period. Ben-Menashe was not aware of Epstein being involved in arms deals for anyone else he knew at the time, but did confirm that Maxwell wanted to involve Epstein in the arms transfer in which he, Davies, and Ben-Menashe were engaged on Israel’s behalf.
After the initial introduction, Ben-Menashe would witness Epstein at Maxwell’s offices on several occasions, stating that Epstein was "frequently present" at that location. Ben-Menashe stated specifically that Epstein "used to be in [Robert Maxwell’s] office [in London] quite often" and would arrive there between trips to and from Israel.87 Ben-Menashe also asserted that Ghislaine Maxwell accompanied her father so frequently that she was involved in his intelligence-related activities to some extent. However, he stopped short of saying how involved she was or what she had specifically been involved in prior to her father’s death. Ghislaine’s early life and her relationship with her father is detailed in Chapter 15.
Aside from Ben-Menashe’s claims, there are also statements made by Steven Hoffenberg that, during the late 1980s, Epstein had boasted of his ties to Israel’s intelligence services, claiming that it had been Ghislaine Maxwell who had made the introduction.88 Furthemore, Zev Shalev reported that another well-placed and independent source, who has remained anonymous, had corroborated Ben-Menashe’s assertions that Epstein had been an intelligence asset for Israel.89
Close ties to Israel’s government later in his life can also be seen in an odd visit Epstein made to Israel in 2008. The visit was odd partly due to the timing, as it took place during the course of his trial and just a few months before he was sentenced to prison in June 2008. In April of that year, the Palm Beach Daily News reported that Epstein was staying at the Tel Aviv Hilton and quoted an Epstein spokesman as saying that he was "spending Passover, meeting with Israeli research scientists, and taking a tour of military bases."90 Access to military bases is certainly not something easily obtained by tourists to Israel, even very wealthy ones, again suggesting that Epstein had long-standing connections to Israel’s national security apparatus, along with his "friendship" to Ehud Barak.
-- One Nation Under Blackmail: The Sordid Union Between Intelligence and Crime that Gave Rise to Jeffrey, by Whitney Webb
