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"You Guys are F*CKING TRAITORS!” Combat Veteran Sounds Off on ICE
Status Coup News
Oct 4, 2025 #antifa #veterans #protests

Status Coup’s video journalist Jon Farina interviewed U.S. Combat combat veteran Rig Madden, who served in Cuba, Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq, and Afghanistan. He is now one of a group of veterans peacefully protesting and fighting against President Trump’s rising authoritarianism and crackdown on protesters, immigrants, and political opponents. Status Coup is the ONLY INDEPENDENT OUTLET consistently ON THE GROUND with the people.



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Out of everybody I despise the most, I
said capitalists right now. You guys are
[ __ ] traitors, man.
You want to see what real independent
journalism funded by the people for the
people looks like?
You ever heard a story like this in
America? You're looking at it.
Congratulations for always being
somewhere where mainstream media is not.
Flint, Michigan.
See you in Nevada.
Thanks to people like you, we could get
the truth. Corporate media, we they've
been lying to us for years. You going
straight to the people.
You are the man. I'm glad you're here.
Let us go.
For as low as 16 cents a day, you'll
keep us on the ground covering the
important stories the corporate media
covers up.
Um, I did five tours
of duty. My first one was Operation Sea
Signal in Cuba. Um, Operation Joint
Endeavor in Bosnia 1996, Cuba was 95. I
did a Operation Joint Guard uh which was
Kosovo in 1999. I did Operation Iraqi
Freedom in uh 2008 in Iraq and my final
tour was in Afghanistan uh Operation
Endurance Freedom in 2013. And I got to
go see um the best president in history,
Barack Obama, give out the Medal of
Honor at the White House in 2014 and I
retired under him in 2016.
Do you think we actually have a real
democracy to save?
Here's the big problem, guys.
It's the fact that America was so
[ __ ] corrupt and let his ass back in
there. This is so much bigger than
Donald Trump. It's the fact that you got
somebody that is openly corrupt, openly
racist as Trump and they still bent the
knee. That let you know it wasn't about
Trump. He's just the avatar. The country
has always been white supremacist. This
is the country I grew up with. I
remember these white people losing their
mind when I first moved in in our
apartment building in California. You
know, called me the horror yard, said I
was bringing down the property value.
That hatred has always been there. Uh I
couldn't leave base in Fort Leonardwood
because of the racism, you know. Uh they
wouldn't want to they didn't want to
rent to me in Indiana because of the
racism after I did [ __ ] Ford tours
for the country. And so now I'm like,
you know what? [ __ ] it, right? Let that
[ __ ] burn. I don't think someone um as
corrupt as Trump and his administration
are giving up power. I just don't
believe that at all because they the
moment he gives up power, his people go
to jail. Steven Miller is going to
prison. Everyone who's been doing all
that, the the uh Navy guys who killed
those Venezuelans, them are [ __ ] war
crimes. They will hang for that [ __ ]
They will spend the rest of their
[ __ ] life in prison for killing these
people. And so they're they're going to
fight to try to hold on to power. and
everyone one of us need to be ready to
bring that fight to him when the time
comes.
Was there something from your childhood
or growing up uh that inspired you to to
want to serve your country?
The army honestly was always my backup
plan right when I was young I wanted to
be an astronaut. I loved sci-fi. I love
science itself. I was obsessed with like
space travel um believe it or not. But
uh really uh when I started going to
like different schools, my my junior
high school was heavily white. So dealt
with a lot of open racism, a lot of
fights. Uh but but really I joined the
army because of LA riots. I was just
tired of the violence, tired of getting
shot at for free. Um just tired of I
just I honestly believe that I had a
better life expectancy as a soldier than
I did in my own neighborhood. And so I
just left. I think I probably was a
recruiter's dream. I walked in said I'm
ready to go. One last question. What
would be your message to current
soldiers, ICE agents, and National Guard
that are being ordered to do illegal,
non-constitutional things on a daily
basis?
You don't participate, right? Weaponize
competence. You walk out here, you look
good, you be a prop for the government,
help people with their luggage, but
absolutely do not raise your weapon. At
a citizen, don't participate anything
you know is illegal. You tell them
demons whatever they want to hear up
front but in the streets and especially
I'm talking to NCO corps because the NCO
corps is really what holds the military
together that makes us unique in all
armies. The NCO core I believe the
non-commission core officers will hold
fast to the constitution. We knew how to
play the [ __ ] game. We've had bad
commanders before. We let them do their
thing, man. But out here in the in the
real world, especially if they're not
the type of commander that leave from
the front, they're not going to know
what's happening from the field. you you
send they ass some [ __ ] report and
by all means stay the [ __ ] quiet. Do not
expose yourself. If you got a grievance,
bring it to the veterans. We can we can
talk [ __ ] without being subject to the
uniform code of military justice. But we
need you there. Somebody with a [ __ ]
conscience got to still be here to hold
the line. And I understand that it's
terrible for you. It's terrible to see
people. It's terrible to see democracy
burn around you. But you really are a
last line of defense. And for you
kidnappers known as ICE agents,
understand this. You will never be
[ __ ] forgiven for your crimes ever.
The soldiers, I can understand. They
took an oath. They're duty bound to be
there. They can't just quit. You could
[ __ ] reclass tomorrow and go work for
FEMA or do something else. If you choose
to put a mask on, if you choose to send
people to concentration camps, if you
choose to do that [ __ ] you will be a
mortal [ __ ] enemy forever. When that
[ __ ] demon is gone from the White
House, you will be hunted just like you
hunted them. You will be hunted. You
will never have a [ __ ] moment of
peace. Period. Out of everybody I
despise the most, ICE at the top of the
list right now. You guys are [ __ ]
traitors, man. And the fact that you let
Proud Boys and Oathke keepers and all
these [ __ ] insurrectionists on the
team that let you know, man. Listen,
I'mma tell you something too to you
Proud Boys. I don't give a [ __ ] if that
fell anoints you in the name of the
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We not
going to recognize that [ __ ] in these
streets. Understand that [ __ ] So when
you come out here, be ready for those
one-way missions. All right? It's all
fun and games until you deal with
heavily armed veterans who are willing
to match and see your energy. Hell will
flash trees over before I let anybody in
my family be taken. Period. I don't give
a [ __ ] And you could tag that fake ass
god of war himself. [ __ ] him, too.
Right. I don't give a damn about any of
these demons, man. Ice is an absolute
scourge. You should you should hold your
head in shame forever for the [ __ ] you
doing. You will never be forgiven for
that [ __ ] If you had a shred of
dignity, you would reclass tomorrow.
Sorry, guys. That [ __ ] just pisses me
off, man. Can't stand these [ __ ]
demons, man.
It's got to come from the heart.
Yeah, I can't I cannot I cannot stand
these guys, man. I watched, you know,
people out here running for their
[ __ ] life, man. That lady in Walmart
running for like hours, man. Hiding and
notice they going after people who
working.
Yeah.
Right. They sat here. Immigration itself
is really about white supremacy.
Let's just cut to the chase. Immigration
has always served to keep America white.
They tell you whatever [ __ ] lie from
operation wet back. This is goes back in
history. So we know now you really see
what America is about. They put white
supremacy over everything over the rule
of law, over the separation of powers.
And now they want to fund ICE at a
higher rate than they fund the Marine
Corps. That is the danger. That means
they're going to use these people to
stay in power. Right? They're using them
right now. If you see, they desensitize
the military already to kill people,
right? They're telling you it's okay to
kill drug dealers and kill because
they're they're moving drugs. You can
kill them now. Right? So, they're going
to continue to decentize these people
before they turn the guns on us.
We need to be ready before that moment
happens.
Got a good night's sleep.
And I tell you, whether it takes 10
months or 10 years, we must be
absolutely relentless in our fight
against white supremacy.
All right. You good?
Is there anything else you want to get
off your chest?
No, I think I said it all, guys. Listen,
I'm pretty sure I've earned my way on
any list, any watch list. So, and that's
all right. I'll be proud to be on that
[ __ ]
You're inspiring.

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The president is unhinged’: Trump’s online behavior grows increasingly odd
By Adam Gabbatt in New York
The Guardian
Sun 5 Oct 2025 10.00 EDT

The US president’s recent behavior is strange to many, from reposting a false AI video of himself to confusing comments during press conferences

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Donald Trump in the Oval Office in September. Photograph: Ken Cedeno/Reuters

To many observers, both in the US and abroad, Donald Trump has been behaving strangely recently. Especially online.

As a government shutdown loomed in the US last week, the president posted an AI video which depicted Hakeem Jeffries, the first Black House minority leader, wearing a sombrero and exaggerated moustache, with mariachi music playing in the background.

Hispanic groups criticized Trump’s posts as “racist”, “dangerous” and “reprehensible”, but Trump doubled down, posting a new video which showed himself wearing a sombrero and playing the guitar behind a rendering of Jeffries.

It wasn’t the only situation where Trump’s behavior has seemed unusual. Last weekend Trump reposted to Truth Social an AI-generated fake video which promoted “med bed hospitals”. Trump has reposted AI content before, but the difference was that this video showed an AI version of himself speaking.

“Every American will soon receive their own med bed card,” the AI rendering of Trump, apparently seated in the Oval Office, said. “With it, you’ll have guaranteed access to our new hospitals led by the top doctors in the nation, equipped with the most advanced technology in the world.”

Setting aside the fact that the idea of “med beds” is a rightwing conspiracy theory – one version of the theory posits that the government and/or a group of wealthy Americans have access to medical bed-like devices that can cure almost every illness, but are withholding the technology – Trump’s post prompted a number of questions.

Did Trump, 79, believe that the video really showed him announcing med bed hospitals? Does the president think he gave a speech about med beds at the White House? Does he believe that his government is about to send “med bed cards” to every US citizen?

The post was ultimately deleted, but it remains baffling, and the White House’s response did little to allay the confusion.

“I think the president saw the video and posted it, and then took it down,” Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, said when asked about the video on Wednesday.

“And he has the right to do that. It’s his social media. He’s incredibly transparent, as you all know. You hear from him directly on social media. He likes to share memes, he likes to share videos, he likes to repost things that he sees other people post on social media as well and I think it’s quite refreshing that we have a president who is so open and honest.”

Leavitt’s words did little to explain Trump’s thinking as to why he might have posted the fake video. But, in truth, it was only the most recent example of increasingly odd behavior from Trump, who has – like his predecessor Joe Biden – been subject to questions over his mental acuity in recent months.

In a recent speech at the White House where Trump claimed – against most existing evidence – that Tylenol could contribute to autism if women take it during pregnancy, Trump confusingly spoke of “certain elements of genius that can be given to a baby”.

Announcing that 13 grants would be awarded to investigate autism, Trump added: “They have to move quickly. They, they – when the alternative is that nothing bad can happen, let’s do it now. I was just saying to Bobby [health secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr] and the group, let’s do it now. Nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen.”

A week earlier, during a press conference with British prime minister Keir Starmer, Trump confused Albania with Armenia when discussing a peace deal struck between Armenia and Azerbaijan – a mistake Trump also made during an appearance on Fox News.

Back in the social media world, on Sunday Trump wrote on Truth Social that he had “been briefed” on a shooting at a Mormon church in Michigan which killed four people. “The Trump Administration will keep the Public posted, as we always do,” Trump wrote.

He did indeed post again. But it was not an update on the still unfolding tragedy in Michigan. Instead, three hours later, he shared a video which showed an array of gold fixtures and fittings.

“Some of the highest quality 24 Karat Gold used in the Oval Office and Cabinet Room of the White House. Foreign Leaders, and everyone else, ‘freak out’ when they see the quality and beauty. Best Oval Office ever, in terms of success and look!!! President DJT,” he wrote.

He did not comment again that day on the Michigan shooting, although he did complain about the new NFL kickoff rule.

Setting aside Trump’s confusing online behavior, the president’s in-person appearances have also become odd.

On Tuesday, Trump summoned the country’s top military commanders to a meeting in Virginia. Addressing the top military brass, Trump, sounding drained, touted his alleged successes and lauded the US bombing of an Iran nuclear facility – something which may have violated international law – before saying:

“America is respected again as a country. We were not respected with Biden. They looked at him falling down stairs every day. Every day, the guy’s falling down stairs.”

Trump continued: “I said: ‘It’s not our president. We can’t have it.’ I’m very careful, you know, when I walk downstairs for – like I’m on stairs, like these stairs, I’m very – I walk very slowly. Nobody has to set a record, just try not to fall because it doesn’t work out well. A few of our presidents have fallen and it became a part of their legacy.

“We don’t want that. Need to walk nice and easy. You not have – you don’t have to set any record. Be cool, be cool when you walk down, but don’t, don’t bop down the stairs. That’s the one thing with Obama, I had zero respect for him as a president, but he would bop down those stairs, I’ve never seen – da da da da da da, bop, bop, bop, he’d go down the stairs, wouldn’t hold on. I said, it’s great, I don’t want to do it. I guess I could do it, but eventually bad things are going to happen and it only takes once, but he did a lousy job as president.”

In the same speech, Trump claimed that cities including San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles are “very unsafe places and we’re going to straighten them out one by one”. The president then casually mentioned that he had told Pete Hegseth, the newly-annointed secretary of war, that “we should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military”.

The address prompted immediate concern, including from former military members. Barry McCaffrey, a retired general, told MSNBC that Trump’s performance was “one of the most bizarre, unsettling events I’ve ever encountered”.

“The president sounded incoherent, exhausted, rabidly partisan, at times stupid, meandering, couldn’t hold a thought together,” McCaffrey said.

Trump’s speech was enough for Madeleine Dean, a Democratic congresswoman from Pennsylvania, to confront the Republican House speaker, Mike Johnson, in Washington on Wednesday, although Johnson appeared unconcerned.

“The president is unhinged. He is unwell,” Dean told Johnson, in an encounter filmed by journalists.

“Well a lot of folks on your side are too,” Johnson responded.

On the ground with Northern Gaza's Trail of Tears
The Grayzone
Sep 30, 2025 #TheGrayzone

The Grayzone takes a look at the forced exodus of refugees from northern Gaza as Israel's military deliberately destroys their homes to force them south in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. We hear from those on the move with all they can carry, fleeing for their lives from the nightly bombardments and shelling.

Edited and written by Oscar Leon
Camera by Mohamed Elsaife
Translated by Hekmat Aboukhater
Produced by Max Blumenthal

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The People's Majority
Oct 5, 2025

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Transcript

We have more breaking news at this hour.
In fact, Governor Gavin Newsome posted
just a short time ago, President Trump
is sending hundreds of California
National Guard to Oregon and he is ready
to fight it. MSNBC Pentagon
correspondent Pria Shrether who is
standing by for us at the Norfolk Naval
Station where the president is a uh
attending a ship ceremony for the 250th
anniversary of the Navy. You're joining
us now to talk about this. So, um, first
let's talk about what Trump spoke about
earlier relative to Portland Priya. What
did he say and what more do we know
about that deployment?
Our next demonstration.
Yeah, that's right, Alex. Well, we know
that the Trump administration has
already appealed that federal judge in
Oregon's decision to essentially halt
the deployment of 200 Oregon National
Guardsmen for a period of 14 days to the
9inth Circuit Court. We also know, as
you mentioned, that according to
Governor Nuome, uh, the Trump
administration has actually decided to
federalize 300 California National
Guardsmen and send them to Oregon. I'm
going to read the tweet that he just
posted online. He said, "After a federal
court blocked his attempt to federalize
the Oregon National Guard, Donald Trump
is deploying 300 California National
Guard personnel into Oregon. They are on
their way there now. We're taking this
fight back to court. The public cannot
stay silent in the face of such reckless
and authoritarian conduct by the
president of the United States. And the
president did address that Portland
judge's decision at the recent gaggle on
the south lawn, saying that this is a
judge that he appointed himself and that
they should be uh ashamed of their
decision. Take a listen to a little bit
more about what he had to say about
what's going on in Portland.
Portland is burning to the ground. It's
uh insurrectionists all over the place.
It's Antifa. And yet the politicians who
are petrified. Look, the politicians are
afraid for their lives. That's the only
reason that they say like there's
nothing happening. And you've seen it.
The place is burning down and they
pretend like there's nothing happening.
The approach has been aborted. Now, just
last week, President Trump and the
Secretary of Defense Pete Hexath
addressed a host of senior military
leaders who flew in from all over the
world to Marine Corps Base Quantico. And
there, President Trump said that the
United States military should use
dangerous American cities as a training
ground. And that's exactly what he's
doing with these different National
Guard deployments in places like
Memphis, Portland, Chicago, Washington
DC, and Los Angeles. He claims that he
was able to clean up the crime in
Washington DC in a matter of 12 days.
And that's what he's hoping to do in
these other cities too. As far as what
exactly those 300 National Guardsmen
from California are actually going to
do, that remains unknown. We
what the president is saying, he's
lying. Speaker Johnson's lying. They're
lying to the American people. It's
shameful.
Um period, full stop.
Uh they know that. I mean they they
can't even hide that fact. You can see
their physiology and almost a smile on
their face uh when they suggest that. So
I reject the premise of their
assertions. Period. Full stop. Can you
explain how it's different for medical
states have the ability to do what
states do independent of the federal u
uh contributions and uh so they're
completely I mean what they're I guess
they're trying to connect their
displeasure with what California and
many other states do with state
resources in this space. Um and that is
a very separate conversation. It's a
separate topic. It has nothing to do
with their assertions in relationship to
the government shutdown.
Governor,
you've seen it across the board. People
are scared to death of this guy.
And it's it's the appalling silence.
It's the complicity. You're seeing the
most
successful, wealthiest people scared to
death of this guy. It It makes me sick.
Is it is it worth it to you to watch
this 249 years just vanish in real time?
She asked about the Supreme Court. It's
part of that. I'm old enough to remember
in the history books this notion of the
enduring values of our founding fathers,
the best of the Roman Republic, Greek
democracy, popular sovereignty. It's
trying to rig the elections.
This notion of co-equal branches of
government. I said supine Congress,
supine Supreme Court rolling over to
this guy. It's no longer the rule of
law. It's increasingly the rule of dawn.
It is a serious moment
in world history and we're losing our
moral authority by the hour as he
continues to exercise his formal
authority by the minute. M
breaking news with more reaction to the
White House deploying 300 California
National Guard troops to Oregon and that
state's Democratic Governor Tina Cotek
says some arrived last night and more
are expected today. California Governor
Gavin Newsome said he's going to fight
Trump's move in court. And joining me
now is California Congressman Jimmy
Gomez. He is a member of the Ways and
Means Committee. And Congressman, I
welcome you back to the show. And I'm
curious, sir, your response to the
president sending troops from your state
to handle an alleged crime problem in
another. And your response to Trump
telling top military leaders that US
cities should be used as training
grounds to fight the quote enemy within.
Well, first, this is something that we
knew Trump would do. He would
continuously abuse his power and the
power to deploy and uh federalize
National Guard all over the country. And
that's what he's done in California and
across uh the nation. The move to send
California National Guard is a I think a
violation of the spirit of the judgment
that was ruled by one of his own
appointees that the conditions to deploy
the National Guard or the military to
Portland do not exist. There's no
insurrection going on. So what he's done
is ignored a court order uh violating
the spirit of the law. And if he
continues to do it, he's gonna do it
again and again and again. And when it
comes to when he had that, I would say
just disgusting display. Um addressing
the our leaders, our military leaders
from all over the globe. Uh it was just
an abuse of power, but also says that
we're not serious. And then trying to
say that the enemy is the American
people itself, US citizens. That is
dangerous. And what I think he's doing
is he's trying to normalize having
troops on the ground. He's trying to
normalize saying that the enemy within
should be um attacked. It should be uh
contained even though there's no such
enemy and he's going to use the military
to do it. I'm proud that the military
they were obeying orders. They were
there to listen to the speech, but at
least they didn't react because they
know what he's doing is wrong and is not
what America or the military stands for.
H let's go from there to the government
shutdown because besides restoring
health care subsidies, the shutdown
fight is Democrats response to critics
who say they're not doing enough to
oppose President Trump's agenda. Is the
party's message strong enough to
convince voters that this fight is worth
all the pain caused by this shutdown?
And how long can Democrats stay united
as this shutdown drags on? It is now day
five of the government shutdown with
congressional leaders doubling down,
blaming the other party for what could
be a lengthy stalemate. The Democratic
House minority leader today saying the
White House and Republicans are refusing
negotiations to reopen the government,
while the House Speaker claimed the
shutdown is just a Democratic ploy to
help Senate Minority Leader Chuck
Schumer's re-election bid. Take a
listen.
The last time there was a conversation
with Republican leadership was in the
White House meeting last Monday. And
unfortunately since that point in time,
Republicans, including Donald Trump,
have gone radio silent. And what we've
seen is negotiation through deep fake
videos, the House cancelling votes, uh,
and of course, President Trump spending
yesterday on the golf course. That's not
responsible behavior.
They're not serious. This is not a
serious negotiation. And they're doing
this to get political cover because
Chuck Schumer is afraid that he won't
win his next re-election bid to the
Senate because he's going to be
challenged by a Marxist in New York
because that's the new popular thing out
there.
Joining us now is the ranking member of
the House Oversight Committee,
Congressman Robert Garcia of California.
He is a member of the Oversight and
Transportation and Infrastructure
Committees. Welcome back to the
broadcast. So, let's look at the recent
polls which show Americans are blaming
President Trump and Republicans for the
shutdown, but a significant share of
voters aren't sure who's responsible.
Democrats position isn't just about
extending ACA tax credits. It's about
showing voters they are fighting back
against the Trump agenda. Why is the
shutdown fight the right tactic? Can
Democrats still win the messaging battle
if they don't get their healthcare
concessions?
People need to be very clear about
what's about to happen and why we're in
this fight. Over the next few months,
folks are going to start receiving
letters in the mail. They're going to be
notified by their insurance companies,
by their healthcare providers that their
premiums are about to skyrocket. In some
cases, they're going to double or even
further than that, their costs are going
to go up. And so at a moment where
people are struggling to pay for
housing, to pay for groceries, the last
thing that the American public,
working-class families need is for their
health care costs to go up. Which is why
we are so adamant at this moment that
Donald Trump and Republicans do not
allow these Affordable Care Act
subsidies to expire. That is why we are
willing to take on Donald Trump to stand
firm and stand tall. And Senate
Democrats shouldn't give Donald Trump
one single vote to pass his budget that
not only takes away and harms health
care, but gives more to billionaires and
large corporations in this country,
which is exactly why we've got to stand
tall in this moment.
It was suggested earlier on the
broadcast that we've got about 3 weeks
or so until people start getting those
notices and open them up and go, "What?"
Which means Democrats have to hang on at
least that long. Is that a fair
assessment?
Look, personally, I'm I'm hanging on as
long as possible here. We We have to We
have to stand tall. Donald Trump has
been all about terrorizing communities,
sending the National Guard and the
military into American cities,
kidnapping people off of our streets,
taking rights away. He He is using the
government to weaponize and fight his
own citizens in this country. And so,
right now, enough. I mean, Democrats
need to have and match the energy of the
people on the ground. They're demanding
folks to stand up and fight Donald
Trump. And so, I think right now, this
healthc care fight is a righteous one
and one that we've got to be in. And
look, I just I obviously just heard Mike
Johnson's comments uh that that you
played. I mean, Mike Johnson now
apparently likes to lie as much as as
Donald Trump. I mean, give me a break.
Donald Trump is playing golf while he
should be negotiating a safe landing for
healthcare in this country. He could
care less that millions of people in
this country are about to see their
health care costs explode. He could care
less that 17 million people will likely
see their Medicaid taken away or
dramatically reduce over the course of
the next few years. And so these are all
because Donald Trump wants to continue
to give massive tax breaks to
billionaires. That's what this is all
about. And so we've got to stand tall
and and I know it's tough. Government
shutdowns are hard. People do get
impacted. Government workers need our
support. But these same government
workers and working families are telling
me to stand tall and to ensure that
healthcare costs don't go up. Newsome
isn't my favorite on an ideological
basis. If I was making a list of the
people that I would support or I would
recommend you guys support in 2028, he
would not be at the top of the list. I'd
probably put at least three, four, five
people ahead of him. I'd probably put
Pritsker ahead. I'd put Oaf ahead. I
would put AOC at the top probably, you
know, like I'd have a list of people,
but he's been undeniably
much better than most at generating buzz
and interest in getting under Trump's
skin, getting under his skin in a lot of
ways that angers Trump and that exposes
him. You've seen Trump change a little
bit on social media after Newsome mocked
him. Remember how Newsome, he's still
doing it, but remember how a few weeks
ago, a couple months ago, for the last
couple months, he he started tweeting in
all caps and started sharing ridiculous
memes and started calling himself like
grandiose things and everyone knew it
was like it was him mimicking and
mocking Donald Trump, copying him,
right? And
Trump almost chilled for a little bit
because I think he realized he's like,
"Is this what I'm really like?" even
even no awareness Donnie was like this
is a bit much and I think Newsome by
continuing to fight in this regard by
balancing we're going to take Trump on
because he's serious and we got to deal
with this serious harm he's causing but
also mocking him for being the buffoon
that he is. This is important and you're
seeing other California Democrats,
including California members of of the
federal uh representatives, you know,
federal representatives rather than
state level, say much of the same
things. I don't know guys whether you
think Nuome should be president or not,
you should definitely listen to him when
it comes to triggering MAGA. Go.

Trump’s Federal Agents Just RAN FOR THEIR LIVES In CHICAGO
Occupy Democrats and The Michael Fanone Show
Oct 5, 2025

Donald Trump‘s masked federal agents just fled for their lives in Chicago! Well done, Chicago!



Transcript

In today's breaking story, Trump's
federal agents just ran for their lives
in Chicago. That's right, Donald Trump's
chaos continues to get more and more out
of control. How's it going everybody?
Hunter Avalone here with Occupy
Democrats. Welcome back to another
video. Now, Donald Trump continues
putting his federal agents in a bunch of
Democrat cities because he is buttth
hurt. He's scorned. And that's pretty
much all there is to it. But now things
might be getting even worse.
Been doing uh the Department of War has
been deploying National Guardsmen to
dangerous downtowns throughout this
country. Uh if a young man or woman
signs up today, are they more likely to
deploy in their career to the Middle
East or to the Midwest?
Well, I'll tell you this. The era of
sort of reckless adventurism around the
globe is over. uh we're introducing
President Trump is clear missions, clear
end states. I mean, even the renaming of
the department from the Department of
Defense to the Department of War is
about clarity. We're not interested in
endless unclear missions. You go to war,
you go to war decisively with a clear
mission to win it and then come home.
So, you're not going to see nation
building abroad. In that sense, they're
less likely.
And things are not going well for Donald
Trump's agents. For one, Christine Gnome
recently complained that her agents can
barely even use the restroom.
Being as these officers are arresting
these bad criminals, and out of the 12
that we arrested during the short period
of time I was there, six of them had
criminal records in their backgrounds
that the state had arrested them and
just turned them loose on the street
again for assault, for weapons
possession, for robbery. Those
individuals now are be off the streets
thanks to President Trump, not thanks to
that mayor who's delusional at best. So,
do you tie a direct line between the
rhetoric from people like Mayor Johnson
and other Democrats to the actual
increase in assaults and the threat of
violence?
Oh, absolutely. He's giving them air
cover. He's giving them air cover so
they can go out and keep committing
crimes. Uh it's wrong. Uh there should
be consequences for that and for leaders
that stand up and knowingly lie about
the situation on the ground. This is a
war zone. his city is a war zone and
he's lying so that criminals can go in
there and destroy people's lives. Uh you
know those individuals that live there
are waking up to it. They understand
that where we have gone uh we've made it
much more free. People are much safer.
We've got a thousand criminals that are
off the streets of Chicago just because
we've been there not because of his
help. Uh and in fact they don't even let
our ICE officers and our border patrol
officers use restrooms in facilities.
Those men and women were telling us that
they have to figure out even where they
can go sit down for 5 minutes to have
lunch or to use a restroom throughout
their shift and their break. So, they've
made it a very uh difficult situation.
But what I was so encouraged by was
these officers love their jobs.
And now Trump's federal agents just ran
for their lives in Chicago. That's
right. Take a look at today's top story.
[Music]
Are you
migra?
[Music]
Let him go.
[Music]
Dirty ass mother.
[Applause]
Now, shocking scenes out of Chicago show
President Trump's own Department of
Homeland Security agents literally
running for their lives. Viral videos
posted online capture two masked federal
agents attempting to arrest a man in the
middle of a busy street. Within seconds,
horns blare, crowds gather, and
protesters swarm. The agents struggle,
eventually releasing the man before
scrambling back into an unmarked vehicle
and fleeing the scene. But what is even
more stunning is what happened next.
According to multiple reports, the
Chicago Police Department was explicitly
ordered not to assist. Fox News
correspondent Bill Malugan confirmed
that the city's chief of patrol
instructed officers to ignore calls for
backup when border patrol agents were
surrounded during another clash
involving a ramming incident and the
shooting of an armed woman. This marks a
new level of chaos. Federal agents
already on edge from violent
confrontations now find themselves
abandoned by local police departments
that refuse to shield them. And the
political fallout is just beginning.
Homeland Security Secretary Christy
Gnome went on Fox News Sunday blasting
Chicago as a war zone where her agents
are not even welcome to use restrooms.
What we are witnessing is unprecedented.
the breakdown of cooperation between
federal and local law enforcement,
leaving Trump's DHS agents isolated,
outnumbered, and vulnerable on city
streets. Thanks so much for watching.
Please click that like button and
subscribe to Occupy Democrats so that
you can stay informed and help us stop
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Maddow Just EXPOSED Trump With An UNDERCOVER VIDEO
Occupy Democrats
Sep 30, 2025

Rachel Maddow just dropped bombshell undercover footage on Donald Trump!



Transcript

In today's breaking story, Rachel Maddow
just exposed Donald Trump with
undercover footage. That's right.
Anytime the camera is left rolling, it
spells trouble for Donald Trump. How's
it going everybody? Hunter Avalone here
with Occupy Democrats. Welcome back to
another video. Now, scandal after
scandal continues to haunt the Trump
administration. Four sources familiar
with the investigation and a government
document reviewed by MSNBC
say Homeman was not entrapped by
undercover FBI agents as Levit
suggested, but rather that those agents
were repeatedly steered to Homeman by
one of his own associates. Julian Jace
Caldera, a former US immigration
official who worked under Homeman in the
Obama administration, allegedly proposed
to the agents who were posing as
businessmen that Homeman could help them
win lucrative federal contracts if
Donald Trump became president again in
exchange for $1 million. Calderas first
allegedly proposed the scheme in May
2023 and continued to do so for more
than a year until that September 2024
meeting in Dallas where agents allegedly
recorded Homeman accepting $50,000 in
cash. Instead of immediately moving to
file charges th those agents waited to
see what would happen after Homeman
joined the Trump administration as the
nation's top immigration official. But
when Donald Trump won, his DOJ shut the
whole investigation down.
And still, Democrats continue to stand
up to Donald Trump's antics.
If the government does shut down,
traditionally workers are furled and
then when the government reopens, they
they come back and they get paid. The
president is suggesting, well, actually,
we may just permanently fire a lot of
them.
Yeah. I would just simply say House
Democrats are not going to be
intimidated by his threats. I understand
that the president and House Republicans
have forgotten that Congress is a
co-equal branch of our government. House
Democrats have not. And at the end of
the day, we don't work for Donald Trump.
We work for the American people. And I
also just think this discussion, this
debate that we're having can't be
considered in a vacuum. You have to
consider the context of what the
president of the United States has been
doing to the federal government for the
last nine months. He has dismantled
agencies by executive fiat. He's purging
the federal government of civil servants
at land management agencies like the
Forest Service and elsewhere, ignoring
congressional appropriations,
pursuing his political enemies,
politicizing the Department of Justice,
indicting them. It's ridiculous. And at
the end of the day, to expect that
Democrats would endorse this kind of
activity and support a Republican budget
bill that exacerbates the cost of living
crisis that they have created in which
they have made everything more expensive
for Americans and for Coloradoatans that
I represent is ridiculous. That that is
not there's no credible argument that
could be made. They know that as I said,
these are not serious people.
And now Rachel Maddo just exposed Donald
Trump with undercover footage. That's
right. Take a look at today's top story.
Well, thanks to body cam footage
released by a federal court just this
afternoon, we now know that the mayor of
Newark was right when he said that that
arrest did not arise organically from
anything that happened on the ground at
that ICE facility. He said at the time
that his arrest appeared to have been
ordered specifically by top Trump
officials in Washington.
Well, now today we can see with our own
eyes that that appears to be true.
No, no, I got it. I got it. We're taking
him right now. All right, let me just
let me
wait an hour.
Okay. No, I'm I'm going to take him
right now.
[Music]
Okay.
You're kidding.
Okay. Even though we stepped out, I'm
going to put him in
for over an hour and we have the right
to be in.
All right. I'm coughing him right now.
All right,
guys. Listen to me. We're going to walk
out of the gates. I'm going to place the
mayor in handcuffs. Okay? We are
arresting the mayor right now. Per the
deputy attorney general of the United
States. Anyone that gets in their way, I
need you guys to give me a perimeter so
I can cuff them and get them on there.
If you have body cams, turn them on.
Okay.
His security clearly has a is on and
went for his weapon while we were
engaging. So, please let you take a
minute. Welcome back. Okay.
Okay. I already told him on camera that
he was under arrest. We're going to
place him under arrest.
All right, guys. Stay with us. Be
careful.
Yeah, let's do one. I'll bring it.
[Music]
Don't
hurt me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me.
Don't touch me. Don't touch me, brother.
Just calm down. Don't touch me. Don't
touch me.
Don't touch me, brother.
[Music]
Lock up.
Don't touch us.
Don't touch us.
Don't touch us.
I got you. I got you.
[Music]
I got you. I got you.
Back up.
Can you do this?
Get in my tongue. Get over her.
Chaos. Total total chaos. This is the
chaos they created again outside of this
facility beyond the closed gates which
they opened to walk outside the facility
to create that chaos. These officers
appear to have no idea what they are
doing. They've been told, apparently
from Washington, to make sure they put
handcuffs on the mayor of the largest
city of New Jersey. And they approach
that task the way a group of
six-year-olds on an uncoached soccer
team might approach kickoff. Just run in
there and scream and push and see what
happens. Thanks so much for watching.
Please click that like button and
subscribe to Occupy Democrats so that
you can stay informed and help us stop
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Headlines
by Amy Goodman
DemocracyNow
October 06, 2025
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/10/6/headlines



Gaza Ceasefire Talks Begin in Egypt Today
Oct 06, 2025

Negotiations are set to begin in Egypt today after Hamas and Israel agreed to parts of President Trump’s 20-point plan for a Gaza ceasefire. On Friday, Trump wrote on Truth Social, “Israel must immediately stop the bombing of Gaza, so that we can get the Hostages out safely and quickly!” Trump made the comment after Hamas issued a response to Trump’s plan without accepting all of the conditions. The deal calls for a swap of all remaining hostages in Gaza for Palestinian prisoners held in Israel, as well as an eventual Israeli military withdrawal from Gaza. But major questions remain over what both Israel and Hamas will agree to.

Israel Kills Seven Palestinians in Gaza Today
Oct 06, 2025

Despite Trump’s call for Israel to stop bombing Gaza, the death toll continues to rise. On Sunday, Israeli forces killed at least 24 Palestinians. Another seven have been killed so far today. Displaced Palestinians in Gaza City expressed hope that a deal to end the two-year war could be reached.

Mahmoud Rihan: “We urge the negotiators, we urge the United States president, Donald Trump, even the state of Israel, the state of Palestine, all states of the world and the Arab states, to end this suffering we are living in completely and to start the reconstruction of the Gaza Strip. We are displaced in the streets. We are living in the streets. Women are humiliated. Our children are humiliated. There are no schools. There is no life.”

Tens of Thousands Rally in Tel Aviv in Support of Hostage Deal
Oct 06, 2025

In Israel, tens of thousands rallied in Tel Aviv on Saturday to support a deal to free the hostages. On Sunday, hostage families set up a protest tent outside the home of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem.

Federal Judge Blocks Trump from Deploying National Guard Troops to Oregon
Oct 06, 2025

For the second time in two days, a Trump-appointed federal judge in Oregon has blocked the president from sending National Guard troops to the state, saying his claims about unrest in Portland were “untethered to facts.” In a ruling on Sunday night, Judge Karin Immergut blocked Trump from sending the California National Guard to Portland. Oregon Governor Tina Kotek praised the ruling, saying, “This is not just about Oregon or a handful of states anymore — it’s about the integrity of our democracy.”

White House adviser Stephen Miller has accused the judge of engaging in a “legal insurrection” by blocking the deployment of the National Guard. Miller’s comment comes as the White House considers a plan to send the Army’s 82nd Airborne Division to Portland.

Trump Admin Plans to Send Hundreds of National Guard Troops to Chicago
Oct 06, 2025

New court filings show the Trump administration plans to send hundreds of National Guard troops from Illinois and Texas to Chicago. On Sunday, Governor JB Pritzker said, “We must now start calling this what it is: Trump’s Invasion.”

This comes as federal immigration agents expand their violent crackdown in Chicago amid growing protests. On Saturday, federal agents shot a woman in Chicago allegedly after a group of cars boxed in patrolling officers. The woman is now facing numerous charges. Chicago Alderman Byron Sigcho-Lopez denounced the federal response.

Byron Sigcho-Lopez: “We’re in Brighton Park in Chicago on 39th and Kedzie. There was a shooting earlier, an ICE-involved shooting. We want to demand an investigation because they are escalating violence. They are escalating violence in the city. This is not making anyone safer. These raids, I mean, you saw that the raids they just did a few days ago, they were innocent people. They have not — they have not shown the need to go and terrorize families in the middle of the night, zip-locking kids, getting people naked in the middle of the street. Is that public safety? Is this public safety, ended up with a shooting, some being chased and now wrecked in a few blocks away from here? This is not keeping nobody safe, and they know that.”

Trump Uses Shutdown to Withhold Federal Funding from Democratic-Led Cities and States
Oct 06, 2025

The government shutdown has entered its sixth day. President Trump is using the shutdown to withhold federal funding from Democratic-led cities and states. Russell Vought, the White House budget director, announced that the administration would pause $2.1 billion in funding for Chicago’s infrastructure projects, writing on social media that the move is to “ensure funding is not flowing via race-based contracting.” It follows a similar announcement last week, when the administration halted $18 billion in infrastructure funding for New York.

WaPo: Trump Admin Looking to Change Age Requirements for Social Security Disability Payments
Oct 06, 2025

The Washington Post is reporting that the Trump administration is working on a plan to change age requirements for Americans to qualify for Social Security disability payments by raising the qualifying age to 60 or eliminating age as a factor entirely. The Post cited a paper showing that 750,000 fewer people would receive benefits in the next decade if the proposed rule change goes into effect.

U.S. Forces Bomb Another Boat Off the Coast of Venezuela, Killing Four People
Oct 06, 2025

U.S. forces have bombed another boat off the coast of Venezuela, killing four people. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth claimed the boat was transporting drugs, but offered no evidence. President Trump recently declared the U.S. to be in an “armed conflict” with drug cartels, in a move to give the president extraordinary power to launch attacks in Latin America. On Sunday, Trump spoke at a celebration of the Navy’s 250th anniversary and threatened to begin launching attacks on Latin America.

President Donald Trump: “Well, they’re not coming in by sea anymore, so now we’ll have to start looking about the land, because they’ll be forced to go by land. And let me tell you right now: That’s not going to work out well for them, either.”

Colombian President Gustavo Petro denounced the U.S. attacks in Latin America.

President Gustavo Petro: “Why did they fire missiles? That’s called murder. And it’s the murder of young people who should have other opportunities, which we must give them.”

Russia Fires More Than 50 Missiles and Nearly 500 Drones at Ukraine
Oct 06, 2025

Ukraine says Russia fired more than 50 missiles and nearly 500 drones in an overnight attack on Sunday, killing five people, including a 15-year-old girl. The attacks also left tens of thousands of Ukrainians without power. Meanwhile, Poland deployed fighter jets to secure its airspace.

French Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu Resigns Less Than a Day After Forming His Cabinet
Oct 06, 2025

France’s Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu resigned on Monday, less than a day after forming his Cabinet and less than a month since being appointed as prime minister. That leaves French President Emmanuel Macron to decide on whether to dissolve Parliament and call another snap election. It comes as tens of thousands of protesters have taken to the streets in recent demonstrations led by trade unions denouncing budget cuts.

Global Sumud Flotilla Activists Allege Mistreatment by Israel in Detention
Oct 06, 2025

Israel is facing accusations of mistreating international activists who were detained when Israeli forces raided a flotilla of Gaza-bound aid boats, detaining over 435 passengers last week. Several activists who have been deported say they witnessed Israeli officers mistreating the Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg. One Turkish journalist who was deported from Israel said Israeli authorities “dragged little Greta by her hair before our eyes, beat her, and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag. They did everything imaginable to her, as a warning to others.” Thunberg is expected to be deported today.

On Sunday, the Spanish activist Rafael Borrego spoke in Madrid after being deported from Israel.

Rafael Borrego: “At any time that any of us called a police officer in prison, we risked that seven or more fully armed people would enter our cell, as they did on mine, pointing us with weapons at our heads, with dogs ready to attack us, and being dragged on the floor. This happened on a daily basis. … They didn’t let us speak to our lawyers at any time. They impeded consular assistance. They didn’t let us call our families — all of this under a very humiliating treatment.”

In other flotilla news, CBS is reporting that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu directly approved military operations on two vessels from the flotilla while it was in Tunisia last month. Two U.S. intelligence officials told CBS that Israeli forces launched drones from a submarine and dropped incendiary devices on the boats.

Major Pro-Palestinian Protests Erupt All Over the World
Oct 06, 2025

Hundreds of thousands of protesters took part in pro-Palestinian rallies this weekend across the globe. In the Netherlands, about 250,000 marched in Amsterdam. Major protests were also held in Istanbul, Paris, Rabat and other cities.

In London, police arrested over 440 protesters for supporting Palestine Action, a group that was designated as a terror organization in July, making it illegal for anyone to show support for the group. This is the longtime British peace activist Angie Zelter.

Angie Zelter: “I’m disgusted by the police, actually. They shouldn’t be arresting nonviolent protesters here. We have a right to protest, and Palestine Action is not a violent organization, should never have been proscribed in the first place. They should be arresting the real criminals, OK, which is the people colluding with the genocide, which includes our government, unfortunately.”

Here in the United States, about 100 activists blocked the main entrance to Port Elizabeth in New Jersey to protest the shipment of weapons to Israel. This is Jim Keady, director of Educating for Justice.

Jim Keady: “As you can see, this is a peaceful, nonviolent demonstration. Yes, it is inconvenient for the people that are in these trucks and in the cars that are in front of me here, but, as you can see, there are people that are just exercising their First Amendment rights to free speech. … This slaughter, this genocide needs to stop. Our elected officials have done nothing to stop the flow of weapons to Israel. In fact, they’ve increased the weapons flow over the course of two years. They have given Israel billions of dollars of our tax money, and they have given them the moral and political cover to commit a genocide that we are seeing in high def on our phones every day.”

NYT: Trump Set to Lower Refugee Admissions, Supporting Mostly White South Africans
Oct 06, 2025

The New York Times is reporting that President Trump is expected to lower refugee admissions to 7,500 people, a sharp reduction from the cap of 125,000 set by the Biden administration last year. The new limit would support mostly white South Africans. Speaking to the Times, Mark Hetfield, the president of HIAS, a Jewish resettlement agency, said, “Such a low refugee ceiling would break America’s promise to people who played by the rules. Trump isn’t just putting the Afrikaners to the front of the line. He is kicking years-long-waiting refugees out of the line.”

Journalist Mario Guevara Deported to El Salvador After Being Detained by ICE for Over 100 Days
Oct 06, 2025

Journalist Mario Guevara was deported to El Salvador on Friday after being detained by ICE for over 100 days. Guevara, who founded the outlet MG News, where he received awards for his coverage on immigration, has lived in the United States for nearly 20 years. He was arrested and jailed in June for live-streaming an anti-Trump “No Kings” demonstration near Atlanta. Guevara spoke to reporters in El Salvador.

Mario Guevara: “Maybe I made a mistake, but I did it for my family. I did it because I held on, because I had hope. I trusted in the United States justice system, because it had always been fair to me. I trusted the United States, right? One of its slogans in the pledge to the flag is 'liberty and justice for all.' That no longer exists. Liberty and justice is only for American citizens. … Journalists who are American citizens can do the work. A journalist like me who is an immigrant with a work permit, no. That’s the new reality in the United States.”

Authorities Probing Alleged Arson Attack at Home of South Carolina Judge Criticized by Trump Admin
Oct 06, 2025

Authorities in South Carolina have launched an investigation after the home of South Carolina Circuit Court Judge Diane Goodstein was set on fire. The judge was not home at the time, but three members of her family have been hospitalized, including her husband, a former Democratic state senator. Judge Goodstein had received death threats recently after President Trump’s Assistant Attorney General Harmeet Dhillon criticized the judge for temporarily blocking the state’s election commission from releasing its voter files to the Department of Justice.

Scott Ritter : NATO Collapsing.
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Scott Ritter, welcome here. Uh my dear friend, before we get into uh NATO collapsing and its relationship
to Ukraine, the Gaza, neoc colonial, Steve Witkov, Tony Blair, Jared Kushner
uh development deal, whatever you want to call it. Why would anybody trust the United States and Israel to negotiate
with? They murder the people that negotiate with Israel.
Yeah. No. Um You're 100% correct. Uh why would
anybody enter a negotiation of this nature? One, I think it's imperative
that Hamas um keep Israel on its back foot. And Israel
is on its back foot. Understand this, there would be no Trump deal if Israel thought it was winning this conflict. Uh
this deal is only possible by the fact that Hamas's resistance is ongoing, sustained, and unbeatable at this
juncture. Um, you know, Israel, again, when they started this ground offensive, this was the final offensive. No more
deals, no nothing. We're coming in, we're killing everybody. And yet now they're stalled. They're losing, you
know, two two or more tank crews a day. Uh, other guys are getting knocked off with snipers. It It's Hamas is
unconquerable. Um, and so Israel has no choice but to go forward. But we know
that Israel doesn't negotiate in good faith. the guys that are negotiating on behalf of Hamas were the ones Israel
tried to kill in Qatar uh the other day, you know. So, you know, but it's it's imperative for Hamas not to allow Israel
to paint Hamas into a corner. Um Hamas must be seen as being willing to do that
which is necessary to achieve a peace deal. Uh and so they will. Um
I I hope and pray that it works. I mean, if it if if we can get a ceasefire, if
we can have the Gazan people stay in their homes, if we can get the Arab world to rebuild Gaza, if we can get
Israel to withdraw, if we can move towards a Palestinian state, I mean, these are all, you know, the objectives
that Hamas set out when when they began this um crisis back on October 7th. Um
but history shows that Israel is incapable of living up to any deal. Uh Israel doesn't want peace. Israel needs
war. Netanyahu needs war. His peace is his enemy. If if there is peace, Netanyahu will be kicked out of office,
arrested, and put in jail for the rest of his life. So, this is a man who's looking for war. Uh but he also
recognizes that Israel is in a very, very bad position right now. Um not only is its military not succeeding, but its
economy is floundering. And more importantly for Netanyahu, he's losing
the support of the United States. It's slipping away. I mean, it's like, you know, melting like hot wax. Um, you
know, Trump has noted that, you know, the iron grip that Israel wants to join on the US Congress isn't there anymore.
And we saw with the whole Charlie Kirk thing, you know, Christian evangelicals, Christian Zionists are starting to
question, you know, if you're an American, how can you support Israel? And Netanyahu is in an absolute panic.
So, there's a there's there's a possibility for peace here. But again, as you said, I don't trust Israel and I
certainly don't trust the United States. Why would Hamas give up the hostages and
give up their weapons? That's the two are their only um negotiating points.
Well, the hostages I think at this juncture have served their purpose. Um I mean the purpose of taking the hostages
to begin with was twofold. One, to lure Israel into Gaza and let Israel be
Israel, which Israel has done. um committing genocide and alienating the world. If people don't recognize the
strategic victory Hamas has achieved here, then they're ignorant of the reality of the Middle East. Israel today
is a reviled nation around the world. Nations are kicking Israeli diplomats out of their countries. Other nations
are recognizing Palestine. Everybody except the United States recognizes Israel as a practitioner of genocide. Um
and and this is a huge victory, a huge victory for Hamas. And that was achievable only by the taking of
hostages. Um and then the you know the the the the second thing was to use it
to get Palestinians released. Uh people need to remember that the Israelis are holding thousands of Palestinians
hostage as we speak. These are people who haven't been charged with anything. These are women. These are children. They're being held by the Israelis,
tortured by the Israelis, raped by the Israelis. And um you know Hamas wants them free. And so we're at the juncture
now where, you know, Israel has done what Israel is going to do. The world knows what Israel is, and Israel is not
going to be able to shake that off. And, you know, right now, the the release of
up to, I think, 1,200 plus uh Palestinians who are held hostage by the Israelis, held prisoner, uh, are going
to be exchanged. I I think the utility of these hostages has run out. at this point to keep them longer. Um, Hamas
runs the risk of being, you know, painted as the bad guys. And, um, you know, already around the world, you
know, Hamas is tainted by the United States and Israel as a terrorist organization. Uh, but much of the world
recognizes Hamas as a legitimate resistance movement, freedom fighters. Um, and Hamas wants to keep it that way.
And I I think at this juncture, from a humanitarian standpoint, there's just nothing further to be gained by holding
on to these hostages. Why would Donald Trump have said to Benjamin Netanyahu,
uh, stop the bombing in Gaza? And Netanyahu, having figuratively thumbmed
his nose at him and accelerated the bombing in Gaza
because Israel operates according to Israel. Again, I just want to reiterate to everybody, Israel is not a friend of
the United States. Um, you know, Israel does what Israel is going to do and they use America as a tool. But yeah, and and
we and we saw this. I I mean, look, there might be a military argument here. I I I struggle to make it, but you know,
many of these operations are intelligence-based, planned in advance, um, and they have an execution
timetable, and it may have been, um, impossible or very difficult to pull the
plug on missions that are already underway. We don't know the complexity of the operation on the ground. Were
there ground controllers? were their intelligence uh assets uh things of that
nature. So I don't know I you know the I'm just trying to be kind here. Um but
the bottom line is I understand that you're trying to be kind. I'm sorry. Go ahead please Scott.
The bottom line is Israel's going to do what Israel is going to do. Um well what about the West Bank? Trump
says they'll never enex it. They already annexed it. I mean if Trump's going to say you're never going
to enex it, then Trump needs to pass a law. get Congress to pass a law that criminalizes the theft of uh Palestinian
land and makes any American uh who steals Palestinian land subject to
criminal prosecution when they return to the United would never pass a Congress bought and paid for by Apac
wouldn't pass a Congress bought and paid for by Apac. But as the president has noted, that Congress may not exist much
longer. Um, and when the reality of what these sellers have done, many Americans
live in blissful ignorance about the horrific reality of these people, these I don't, you know, this is not an
anti-semitic statement, it's an accurate statement. These are Brooklyn Jews who have become radicalized uh, and they go
to Israel for the sole purpose of stealing Palestinian land, murdering Palestinians, kicking them out of their
homes, and then they settle there. They don't work. These are not gainfully employed people. They sit there and they
receive a stipen from the Israeli government courtesy of the American taxpayer. Their healthcare's paid for,
their pensions are paid for. Their job is just to steal land and declare it as part of greater Israel. And they're
doing that. If the president's serious about not permitting this, then he needs to hold these people criminally liable
for what they're doing. Switching over to uh Ukraine, what is
the current state of the special military operation? The Russians have made it clear that
they're carrying out a war of attrition and their job is to kill Ukrainians and they business is good. The Ukrainians
are dying by the bushelful every day in every sector. There's over a battalion worth of Ukrainians being killed. Um the
Russians, you know, are not losing anywhere near the casualties that Trump and Kellogg and Woodoff and others are
are claiming. Um it is a a bloody war, highintensity war. There are occasions when the Ukrainians do launch localized
counterattacks where they achieve temporary drone superiority over a a sector of the battlefield. And when you
have drone drone superiority, it's a bad day for anybody underneath. The Russians tend to enjoy jo drone superiority,
drone supremacy, but every once the Ukraine are able to surge forward and get it and you kill some Russians. Um
the Russians have never denied that they're not taking casualties. But the Russians say that we can handle this.
We've got this under control. our casualties are far less than what the Ukrainians are. And Putin made a point
of this in his Valdai statement. He said, you know, we're focused on one thing. The army that doesn't have
manpower can't fight. And the Ukrainian army is rapidly reaching that point. The
Russians are in the business of killing Ukrainians. And they are doing it by the bushelof. And um that's where we are.
The Russians advance where they can advance. Every day they're taking, you know, several more uh towns and
villages. Um, but their job right now is basically to deplete the Ukrainian
military of manpower and they're doing that in a in a very efficient, bloody, horrible way.
Is there uh disenchantment amongst Russian elites with the pace of the
special military operation? Is there any pressure on President Putin, whether it's some elites or academics or
politicians or military personnel or intelligence personnel to um bring about
an end to this? Short answer is no. The long answer is
look there are some residual elites um you know before the special military
operation um you know kicked in there were political and economic elites who
had ties back to um the the golden age of western economic and political
intervention the 1990s and uh they maintained a certain level of um
influence throughout Putin's you know formative years as president and And they've been a problem for Putin
because, you know, they represent a linkage to the West that isn't necessarily to the benefit of Russia,
but politically Putin, you know, couldn't delink them because there are consequences at the polls. Yes, Vladimir
Putin is not a dictator. He is a democratically elected president and if you piss off enough Russians, you don't
win the vote. Um but because of the special military operation um the west
divorced Russia and these political elites became disenfranchised. Um many
of them fled but many of them stayed. So I would say that there might be residual resentment amongst some of these elites
but they are so far removed from the center of power it's not even funny. I know what you're talking about and I'm
not going to denigrate the person put forward this theory so far off base.
That person needs to go to Russia. That person needs to meet with the elites he's talking about. Not look at Russia long distance through Russian television
programs. Sit down with Russians, meet with the Russians, see the reality of Russia and see the reality of the the
broad spectrum of support that President Putin enjoys amongst the Russian people, elites and non- elites alike. Uh the
president Putin's under no pressure from anybody. This man is as pressure free as he could be.
Well, I agree with you. You and I have been there. We will both be there very soon. But the person uh we're talking
about actually used the unthinkable word coup as o
naming names that person was a respected individual used that word. I mean, I got
a lot of push back from our friends in Russia over that. I don't subscribe to
it. You don't subscribe to it. But he does. Well, I mean, everybody's The beauty of
living in a free world is that you have freedom of speech and you get to say what you want to say, but you need to be
held accountable for it as well. Uh there is no evidence whatsoever that there's anything remotely resembling the
cword taking place in Russia today. Uh just the opposite. Um, you know, the the
the big C-word that exists in Russia is corruption. And there is, you know, residual corruption from the time when
Putin became president back in 2000 when he was first elected, uh, up through, you know, the mobilization in 2022 when,
you know, troops were sent to the mobilization centers only to find that the people managing them had taken the
money that was supposed to be used to buy uniforms and maintain weapons and everything and put it in their pockets, bought new cars and new houses. and um
the the the Russian that was a big wakeup call. Uh and to this day you see generals, senior generals, senior
bureaucrats being arrested for corruption. Um this is a problem, but Putin is cleaning it up. The Russians
are cleaning it up. Um sometimes there's overreach and I think my friend Alexander Zeranov was caught up in uh in
overreach. Um, but by and large the the the big boogeyman hanging around, you
know, Vladimir Putin's presidency was corruption. And that's being cleaned up. And the more he cleans up corruption,
the the stronger his hold on power is. Remember, this is not a dictator. This is a man who rules because the Russian
people love him. And the last time I saw a coup take place in a nation where the people supported their president
democratically by over 80, you know, 80%, it for you've never seen a coup take place.
It doesn't happen. Listen, I like and I respect the person who made these
uh allegations. He just looks at things differently than uh than the rest of us do.
And I from talking to you and other people in Russia, in Moscow, people you
and I will be with shortly. not a centilla of evidence for this.
Um, is NATO collapsing? Well, NATO's been collapsing for a while. I mean, NATO the collapse of
NATO, one could say, began at its birth when uh when it was created for no reason. you know, to to artificially um
you know, sustain a crisis environment that uh could keep the United States in,
keep the Russians out, keep the Germans down. That was what Lord uh Lord Isme
said when one of the first secretary general of NATO. Um but you know NATO's heyday was during the Cold War uh during
the 1970s and 80s when you know it became sort of the premier defensive alliance in the military alliance the
world has ever seen. But with the collapse of the Soviet Union um that the the justification for this alliance went
away. NATO has been struggling ever since. And through that struggle it's primarily a political struggle economic
struggle. Um it's not a military struggle because NATO didn't have any real enemies. And so the NATO military
atrophied over that time and they became addicted to American weapons. And American weapons just aren't as good as
everybody thinks they are. Um and and so now we have NATO, you know, with with
militaries that can't fight, can't get out of the barracks, addicted to an American um weapons, you know, supply
chain, which has now been proven to be unreliable. Because what happens when America's ally Israel starts banging off
weapons and needs it? uh the weapons get taken from other allies, the ones in the Pacific and the ones in Europe. Um it's
done and then NATO itself, you know, has is part of a European elite that has
committed economic suicide by dellinking Europe from, you know, Russian energy and uh the economic consequences are are
horrific. So as is as Europe collapses, NATO collapses and they're both collapsing right now. Does NATO have
weapons uh funded or produced by the United States or does the US military in Europe
have these weapons? I mean there is no NATO ar there's a commanding general of NATO but there's no NATO army is there.
Well actually I mean there is NATO forces. There's forces every every NATO member has a has a military structure
and um some of these units are earmarked for NATO. So they're, you know, they have NATO missions, NATO assignments,
and other units. Are there US Army and Marines in Europe not subject to American generals, but
subject to NATO generals? Well, no. NATO generals are American generals. Uh, the United States isn't
subjected to anybody but the president of the United States. That's just the way it works. There's not going to be a foreign general that orders American
troops to do jack. Uh, that's just the reality. the commander of ground forces in Europe today is an American fourstar
General Christopher Donahghue. Um, and it will always be an American. Um, because we're just not going to allow
foreigners to order Americanh troops into combat. That it doesn't work that way. If there's going to be a war in
Europe that involves American troops, the president of the United States is going to make the decision to make that happen. Not the secretary general, not
the military committee of NATO, nobody. Um, that's that's just a reality. they're, you know, I I think the biggest
um, you know, where you see America's influence the largest is in air power
because air power has been where uh NATO has been investing a lot of money. You see the F-35s and again it's done, you
know, for financial reasons. It's done to help Lohee Martin or whoever the hell makes that aircraft make them a lot of
money. Um, you know, we we we sell the F-35s, we sold the F-16s,
um, and and and such, but you know, we also sold Patriot missiles, we sold artillery systems, but what they're
finding is that the United States has strings attached to everything. And sometimes those strings are attached to
uh, you know, walls that get pulled in place to shut down um, the supply of
weapons. Patriots, uh, Europe isn't going to see any more patriots. Um, those patriots are going to go to
Israel. They're going to go to the United States, both in terms of replenishing what we need in Europe because now we're waking up to the fact
that if there is or is a shooting war with Russia, we need a heck of a lot more missiles than we have. And also, if there's going to be a shooting war with
China, we need missiles and we're we just don't have them. And so, the United States is basically saying, "We're um
we're we're we're shutting down that pipeline for you."

Is Ukraine going to get tomahawks from
the United States?

No. Well, first of all, they'd never get them directly from the United States. The discussion that appears to be
taking place is that the Netherlands, and if you saw -- the Netherlands' prime minister was just in Ukraine today,
doing a solemn march with Zelinsky, you know, celebrating or being
sorrowful about the losses, and all this. And the Dutch have been big talkers about how they're going to support. And the Dutch, in 2023, said they wanted to buy the Tomahawk. The Tomahawk sales
were approved in 2025. Money has been allocated. It's been tested on Dutch ships. And in 2028, the Tomahawks will begin to be delivered to the Dutch. As the president has said, we
will sell weapons to NATO, and then NATO can decide to do what they want. So, the route for the Tomahawk to come
to Ukraine, if it does, will be through the Netherlands. But that decision hasn't been made yet. Because the Dutch would have to commit military resources to assist the Ukrainians. The Ukrainians aren't
trained up on this. They don't know how to use them. And then the Dutch would have to also make an
argument for accelerated delivery of the Tomahawk, because waiting until 2028 for
the Tomahawks to come to the Dutch, and then for the Dutch to deliver them to Ukraine -- there won't be Ukraine then. Ukraine is desperate now, right
now. If they were ever going to have the need for a long range strike in a hope and a prayer of getting the Russians to come to the negotiating table, it's now. Now it's a feudal thing. If they had used the nuclear tomahawks, it would be a nuclear war, and we'd all be dead.

But the vector wouldn't be from the United
States to Ukraine, the vector would be through a NATO country. And right now, the only NATO country that is in the
procurement process, is the Netherlands.

Here's the hothead to whom you referred
earlier. We've seen this clip, but we'll play it again. General Donahue saying how easy it would be for his troops to
take over Kaliningrad.

[Gen. Christopher Donahue] If you look at Kaliningrad, you know,
you can argue back and forth, but it's about 47 miles wide, surrounded by NATO on all sides, there's
absolutely no reason why that A2AD bubble, to deter Russia, we cannot take
that down from the ground in a time frame that is unheard of, and faster than we've ever been able to do. We've
already planned that. We've already developed it.

[Judge Napolitano] "Never apologize. Never withdrawing." Why
the hell would he have said something like that? That's this past summer. That's just three months ago.

[Scott Ritter] I think he said it because he came into office realizing that NATO was very
weak, very weak. And his job is to project an aura of strength. And so I think he was ordered to say
this. You know, Chris is smart enough to know that he just can't get ahead of, you know, NATO planning, and what America's willing to support. So, you know, he was ordered to, you know,
"We seek peace through strength." And the idea is to appear strong, and make Russia feel vulnerable by projecting a potential threat to Kaliningrad, the hope being that Russia would divert resources to Kaliningrad
that otherwise might go to Ukraine, or go up to St. Petersburg, where Russia's
putting in a new military district opposite of Finland. And I
think that's the purpose. But the bottom line is he just doesn't -- I can't say he doesn't know what he's talking
about, but the words he says doesn't reflect the ref, surrounded by NATO. Does he realize that NATO that surrounds Kaliningrad is the Baltics, and Poland, and that neither one of them possess the kind of offensive strike
capacity that Donahue is speaking of? If any of these
nations tried to crack the Kaliningrad nut, they'd be slaughtered in a heartbeat.

Moreover, Donahue needs to
understand that Kaliningrad's not some sort of throwaway territory. It is the Russian Federation. It is mother Russia.
And if you go after Kaliningrad, it's like going after Moscow, and you're going to die. And that's what I said to Chris Donahue when he made that statement is,
"You just committed suicide," because there is an Iskander-S -- that's a new missile -- or there's an Oreshnik, that has your name on
it. You won't live. You're the "command and control" of this operation, this insanity. And if you gave the orders to
execute operation Reduce Kaliningrad Bubble, you die, almost
immediately, because Russia will take you out with weapons you can't defend yourself against. This is the stupidity
of statements like that. I know why he made it, and I have enough respect for Chris Donahue to recognize that he
was put in a very difficult situation, and he doesn't believe a word of what he said.

Here's President Putin last
week, very articulate, very knowledgeable, talking about tomahawks.
Chris number six.

[Pres. Putin] It's dangerous. As for the tomahawks, it's a powerful arm. Perhaps not the
most modernized, but it's powerful. It poses serious threat.
This will not change in any way the balance of powers on the battlefield,
the fundamental issues of the armed forces of Ukraine.
No matter how many UAVs they get, and no matter how many lines they create with
those UAVs, without the personnel, there will be no one to lead those battles.
They have to change the tactics. Will this pose damage to our relations? Will
we see light at the end of the tunnel? Of course. Of course. Using
tomahawks without direct involvement of the US officers is impossible.
Which means a brand new stage of escalation even
between the relations between Russia and the US.

[Judge Napolitano] Do we even have them to give?

[Scott Ritter] Oh, we have tomahawks. We could give them, but we're not going to. Like
I said, we're not going to give anything to Ukraine. That's not how this works. NATO has to buy the Tomahawks, and then
a political decision has to be made by both NATO, by the NATO country involved. And again, I mentioned Netherlands being the only candidate for this, and the United States. So, we have to give the Netherlands re-export authority --

[Judge Napolitano] When he says that they can't be operated without the personnel, he must mean
without American personnel, because of the top secret information needed to
operate them.

[Scott Ritter] Yes. I mean, the ones that we use, the ones we gave to the Brits, they have all this. Yeah, we're selling Tomahawks to Japan, and we're going to sell Tomahawks to the Dutch. And the question is, "Do these
variants have the same linkage? Do they require an American footprint on
both? And I think the answer is no. And so this export version of the
Tomahawk could in theory be made available to Ukraine without American hands. It wouldn't be as effective.
You know, the targeting would have to be derived from NATO sources, and things of
that nature. You wouldn't have to have the Americans doing the crypto; they would use their own crypto, but in theory you could come up with an export version that doesn't require American troops. But if
anything happened today, would they suddenly forget? Yeah, it could only be with American.

And this is the danger that people need
to understand. Putin opened the door to a one-year moratorium on New START, which is going to expire tragically on
February 5th of next year. The treaty's gone. And unless we keep that cap in
place of 1,550 warheads, we're going to go into a nuclear strategic nuclear arms
race that's going to see the number of warheads quadruple almost overnight. And ultimately, we'll have this,
arms race where new weapons are being deployed. Very dangerous situation.

Putin has said he'd like a one-year moratorium, so the United States and Russia could talk about what's next, and how to keep this under control. But as he pointed out, that will not happen if the United States facilitates the transfer of Tomahawk missiles. And again, you know,
the Russians have been very good about acting on reality, not on intent. They're very calm. They don't go
off on rumors. No one's been successful in provoking them into any major
escalation. But when we're talking about a nuclear capable missile being provided to Ukraine, that violates every facet of Russia's nuclear doctrine, which says, by the way, just so people understand, if a nuclear
power provides a non-nuclear power with the means to attack Russia, Russia will
treat the attack as if coming from the nuclear power, and it will prompt a
nuclear response. So no matter how you spin this thing, providing Ukraine with tomahawk missiles makes the
United States the enemy, and it clears Russia to use nuclear weapons, which is the last thing we want.

So we need to
stop this talk. This needs to be nipped in the bud. You know, last December, President Trump gave an interview
to Time magazine about Biden signing off on the Attackums missile, and providing the intelligence for that. You know,
it's the exact parallel of what they're talking about here. Giving the tomahawks to Ukraine, giving the intelligence to do deep strike. And at that time, Trump
said, "This is insanity. This could lead to a war." And it could have. He said, "I will never support this." And at that
time, Congress, the members of Congress, Republicans, put forward a House resolution designed to prohibit
President Biden from going forward with the Attackums, and providing the intelligence. Congress needs to do the
same thing now. They need to be consistent. Because what the President's administration is talking about today is
the exact parallel of what Biden was talking about back in December, but worse. It's an
escalation. And Congress needs to step in right now and say, not just "no," but "hell no! You're not allowed to sell the
the tomahawk to anybody, and you're not allowed to provide intelligence information that would facilitate the use of weapons into Russia, because that is literally an act of war.

[Judge Napolitano] If some Russian
intel officials, or military lieutenants, are looking at a radar screen, and they see tomahawks in
the sky coming to Moscow, can they tell if they're nuclear-armed?

[Scott Ritter] No. I mean, there might some be some other intelligence indicators if they know exactly where it was launched from. I think the bottom line is if
Tomahawks are on the way to Moscow, you have to assume they're nuclear, and
that's going to trigger something.

I mean, I can't speak for the Russians. They've shown historically
to be very responsible, and very mature. We've avoided global annihilation on several occasions
because of the reticence of Russian officers to you know, pull the nuclear trigger. So I'd
like to believe that the Russians will continue to be mature, but Tomahawks to Moscow? Come on, Judge. What if I sent an Oreshnik to Washington DC? How how would you expect Congress to
respond? How would you expect the President to respond? How are the American people supposed to respond? "Oh, it's okay. It's just an Oreshnik. It only took
out the Capitol. It only took out the Pentagon. Don't worry about it. The Lincoln Memorial gone. Don't worry about
it. It's just an Oreshnik."

You send a Tomahawk to Moscow, you're hitting one of the most historic cities in the
world. You're hitting the capital of Russia. I mean, what are the Russians supposed to be willing to give up? The Kremlin,
St. Basil, the Bolshoy. You hit anything in Moscow with a weapon of that nature and all hell is
going to be broken loose, just like f somebody hit Washington DC with a missile of the same level. People need
to put on their thinking caps real quick, because this thing's getting --

[Judge Napolitano] Then General Kellogg should stop talking
about President Trump authorizing Tomahawks.

[Scott Ritter] He should be fired on the spot. You know, he actually had to walk that statement back the next
day. He was in a meeting, a security meeting in Warsaw, and he had to say, "Oh, no, no, it's just
speculation, and I can't speak for any deliberations taking place in Washington DC."

Then why did you? He's
grossly irresponsible. I mean, this is a man who was literally decorated by Zelinski as a hero of Ukraine for the
work he does for Ukraine. And you know, and we need to recognize who he
works for. He doesn't work for the United States. He works for Ukraine, and Ukrainian interests. And the proof is in
the fact that he ran his mouth in such a grossly irresponsible way. He should have been fired on the spot. People have been
fired for far less.

You know, back in the leadup to the Gulf War, the Secretary of the Air Force made a
statement about the upcoming air campaign, speaking about what we were planning on doing to the Iraqis in Desert Storm. And he was fired on the spot. He doesn't get to talk like
that. Keith Kellogg is speaking literally on behalf of the President. He should be fired on the spot. He is
grossly irresponsible.

[Judge Napolitano] Scotty, thank you very much, my dear friend. Great conversation all
across the board. Much appreciated. I will see you soon, and we look forward to seeing you next week.

[Scott Ritter] Thank you.

[Judge Naposlitano] Coming up, one more today at 4:00 on all of this, but mainly on
Israel and Gaza, Professor Jeffrey Sachs, address judging freedom.
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Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here
for Judging Freedom. Today is Monday,
October 6th, 2025. Alastair Crooke will
be here with us in a minute on prudence,
order, rules internationally gone. Alastair Crooke,
welcome here, my dear friend. Uh before
we get to
uh order prudence, rules are gone. In
the past several hours, the French
government collapsed yet again.
Uh, I don't even know how long this
prime minister was in office. Maybe a
month. What's your read on this?
Well, it was expected. We knew he was
going it was going to collapse and we
don't know who um can possibly um fill
in. Uh for the moment, it doesn't look
like Macron is going to um leave. He may
try and stay on, appoint another prime
minister, wait until he can feel there's
a chance of doing a snap election or
something, but even that will not solve
his problems because he will lose it.
No, this is part of the serious uh
crisis. I mean uh here in Italy last
Friday, I mean the whole country closed
down completely closed down
ostensibly in support of the Palestinian
and that was real supporting the
Palestinian
flotilla but also it was about the state
of the country and there were argue in
the papers and the newspapers they were
talking about you know we can't go on
when people are broke by the third week
in the month which is the case here. So,
I mean, you know, and everything was
shut. There were no trains, no buses,
nothing. And nationwide, I'm sure you
haven't seen it in any of your newscasts
or anything, but the same is happening
in other parts of of Europe, too. I
mean, the the protests are taking place
much more widely.
We saw Chris is running a clip now. Uh,
we saw large demonstrations in Milan,
but I did not know it was nationwide.
Uh, are are is it your view that the
push for
um a ceasefire in Gaza or a Palestinian
state, I guess they're pretty much the
same, is the pretext for a general uh
cultural uh economic uh disenchantment
with life in Western Europe today?
Well, they've sort of fused together. I
mean, you know, the what's happening in
Palestine is symptomatic for for many
people of the failure of the leadership
o of the elites in in Europe. So, it's
not they're not any more separated. And
yes, I mean, it was very violent. They
took over the railway station and there
was bitter fighting in Milan when this
was happening. This last one has been
quite different and the government and
all the newspapers were very clear and
said you know this is new. We've had
protests and we've had
you know individual and trade unions of
protest. It's been bigger than anything.
Everything everything shut down.
Everything was on strike. Uh huge
protests um this week. Uh will will the
establishment in Brussels pay attention?
Will they do anything or change
anything? No, they won't. Will the
Italian government will the Italian
government fall as the French government
has just fallen?
It's possible because Melania is um not
very she's more supporting Israel. She
has been a big supporter of Israel and
as you're showing the clips um the mood
of the country has turned sharply
against it very sharply. I mean, this is
a a Europewide thing that they've turned
against um the careful passing of the
European Union and saying, "Well, yes,
we're in in support of a two-state
solution, but in in the end, you know,
they send naval vessels to guard um the
flatillaa." And then the Italian
government said, "Oh, oh, but they'll
have to withdraw at 150 nautical miles
because we wouldn't like a dispute with
Israel." I mean, so people are angry
and as a result, uh, the Israeli Navy
abboarded these ships as if they were
pirates because it was in international
waters,
uh, and kidnapped unarmed people, a good
number of them Americans, some of the
Americans veterans of the US military,
who are just attempting to bring food,
water, medical supplies, and clothing to
the starving uh, bleaguered, tortured
people of Gaza
and Bengier
came to see these people from the
flatillaa and he very publicly announced
to the uh guards that were surrounding
them they were all sitting like
prisoners on the floor and he said
you're going to be treated as
terrorists.
Oh boy. What what conceivable crime
against the state of Israel could they
have been committing in international
waters by attempting to deliver uh food?
But there's no there's no reasoning uh
with these people as long as Trump and
the American government support whatever
they do. They're going to keep they're
going to keep doing it. Why why is the
West in general as you have written
becoming meaner, rougher, and less
tolerant?
Uh well, I was um really orientating
this much more to um the United States
in the second Trump term. um the various
uh strands of the leadership and I'm
talking about the tech brothers uh from
Silicon Valley um the uh the Israeli
leadership there the Jewish oligarchy
and the Trump team have changed
completely the political doctrine the
old doctrine you know the rules-based
order is gone because they're not
obeying the rules they're actually
telling tearing up the rules-based
order. They are ignoring law. They're
are ignoring actually moral precepts,
norms of if you like um how to handle um
prisoners or how to handle war. All of
this is being torn up, thrown in the air
in order to try and bring about if you
like um a new dominance of the United
States across the Middle East and also
in South America in Venezuela. So
everything is being thrown in the air
and law is ignored, norms are ured and
this is a new doctrine uh that is being
pursued in order to pro um if you like
bluster the way to dominance or
ultimately to use military force uh to
create um submission because dominance
is about submission and that's what
Israel is insisting on and which the
Trump team like Barak, Steve Barak said
quite clearly, Tom Barak said very
clearly, look this is, you know, the
other side of the coin to Israeli
dominance, which is what they are
imposing on the region. Of course, it's
submission. You either submit or you're
going to suffer military consequences.
This is the new this is the new doctrine
uh geopolitical doctrine uh that is
being enforced at the moment to try and
get dominance and it is as I've said
many times ultimately this is about
trying to find a way of increasing the
United States revenues into its capital
account uh to cover um what is happening
which is if you like and that they are
being overwhelmed by deficits. The
deficits just grow and grow and the
United States is overwhelmed by them and
overwhelmed by debt that has to be
refinanced in the next few months
through to the midterms. So, how do you
do this? And they want, if you like, the
dominance to insist that people have to
provide investment into the United
States. And you can call it tribute. You
can call it a tax, you can call it a
tariff, or you can call it a sanction.
It amounts to the same thing. It's about
changing the financial order, the global
financial order. And to do that um
through a new policy structure of if you
like threat and if you like bluster and
dominance um to achieve it. Here's uh
here's an example of bluster and
dominance which we'll play in a minute.
The president's uh deputy chief of staff
who is paid by the federal government
but is not confirmed
uh by the Senate. So he's not actually
an officer of the government. He's an
adviser of the president, but he
whispers in the president's ear
continuously. Uh Steven Miller. But
before we get to that, just to show you
the breakdown of law and order here, the
president announced he was going to send
troops to Portland, Oregon, because he
didn't like the politics articulated by
people demonstrating against ICE.
Uh the governor of Oregon brought an
action before a federal judge. a federal
judge appointed by Donald Trump. She
wrote a 31page opinion enjoining the use
of the Oregon National Guard, National
Guard for the federalizing the origin
Oregon Oregon National Guard and
bringing them into Portland. She said,
"We held a trial. The no demonstration
was larger than 30 people and they were
all peaceful. I'm not going to let you
have troops staring them down,
intimidating their First Amendment
rights. No Oregon National Guardsmen are
to be federalized. Over the weekend, the
president federalized California and
Texas National Guard and announced that
they were going to go to Oregon because
he felt they were outside the purview of
her order. She held a trial and a
hearing on Sunday afternoon accused the
president of directly defying her order
and prohibited the federalization of any
National Guard showing up in Oregon.
just to give you an example of where
they are. Now, he's sending the National
Guard to Memphis, Tennessee. And here's
why. Cut number nine. We are about to
provide you with a level of support you
cannot even imagine. This isn't just a
task force. This is a all of government
unlimited support operation. ATF, DEA,
FBI, ICE, Department of War, every
resource we have. We are sending in real
cops with guns and badges to go out with
you on the street every single night
making arrests. I pledge to you, we will
liberate this city from the criminal
element that has plagued it for
generations. The idea that there is a
square inch of block in this city where
a citizen doesn't feel safe is
unacceptable. This is Memphis. This is
the United States of America and all
that is done. It's over. It's
finished.
Like Berlin in 1933.
It's very dark. Um but it is as I said
this is the new doctrine in this case
applied to the United States
not just to the Middle East. Uh so it is
a it it's it's it's a a very much a new
era. We can kiss goodbye the old
rulesbased order that's gone. This is
the new order that we are seeing. uh one
where you get dominance and if you can't
get dominance by just bluster and
threatening financially uh then you send
in the troops and that's what look the
whole the whole globe is on fire at the
moment there's tensions everywhere in
Europe there's tensions but also across
the Middle East it's not confined just
to Gaza it's tensions at the moment just
as we're talking Israel is bombing
Lebanon again
it is going to bomb from Syria. I mean,
we are in a period of everything is is
is is igniting uh altogether all at the
same time. And you know what's going on
in Gaza at the moment is essentially
Trump trying to tamp down, I suspect
trying to tamp down uh the Gaza element
because he does not want that exploding
if they intend or plan to attack Iran
because that would not be uh it would be
not good to have both these things going
on simultaneously. So he's pursuing this
and all this theater that is coming out,
the theater that oh yes, you know, I've
told Netanyahu he's got to stop the
bombing and he's got to let the hostages
be released. We've been there before.
We've seen this movie before. And then
ultimately, and what's happened actually
Netanyahu increased the bombing after he
made that statement and is increasing it
still. When you argue, as you do so
persuasively in your most uh recent
piece, that we now have a war without
rules, can an argument be made that
Donald Trump is following Benjamin
Netanyahu's lead? I mean, Netanyahu is
waging a war against civilians and old
ladies and children and babies. That's
war without rules. Donald Trump is
blowing up. It's now four four boats,
speedboats uh in the Caribbean with no
uh due process whatsoever. Where does
this go from here, Alistair?
Well,
well, that's a $64,000
question where exactly it's going to go
from here. Uh but you're quite right. I
mean, you know, he admires what, you
know, forget the propaganda. He admires
Netanyahu. He is under Netanyahu's
thumb. He will do what Netanyahu wants
and he's taking his lead from Netanyahu
and and this is also because as I have
written before um there is a real sense
that there is an internal war in America
that um Netanyahu is engaged. I called
it the eighth front which is to take
control of the media and my goodness
that's happening. the um Israeli
orientated oligarchs u in America um
Larry Ellison and his son and others are
taking control of the media and now
they're paying people um the influencers
playing influences something like $7,000
um for a post but they're recruiting
young American
um American mostly conservatives
to try and push the line of absolute
support for Israel. And they're spending
lots and lots of money paying people to
write posts on Instagram and Tik Tok and
other sites um pushing the Israeli
agenda. So you have you know this war
too in in the US and these different
factions have come together and the
problem is and why ne why I think Trump
is finding it so difficult and why he
between Iraq and a in a hard place is I
do think that Trump understands
that this is costing him and America
reputation. Um the mood has turned
strongly against Israel. I mean right
across Europe. Just look what's
happening in Europe. Um and it's the
same in America. And he knows that this
will have an impact at the midterms. He
can see that. Yet he cannot do anything
except a little bit of theater. Oh, I'm
going to be so tough and Netanyahu and
tell him, you know, he's too negative.
He's got to do this. They've got to
accept what's happening. Um, but we know
this, we've seen this before. At the end
of the day, um, the United States will
and is supporting Israel completely. Um,
aircraft are traveling to the Middle
East. Arms are traveling to the Middle
East. large quantities of money and arms
are traveling to the Middle East in
preparation for a war on Iran, which
seems inevitable because I don't know
how many of your views have understood
where we are on Iran because essentially
the snapback process came in on the if
it was I think the 28th of August. 30
days after that it automatically starts
um which is I think around uh any time
now or it's already started um and then
uh what you have and this is important
to understand the JCPOA
ends on the 18th of October. It's over.
So where does everything go with Iran?
There will be no JCPOA. Well, with no JC
with no JC JCPOA, will the will there
still be the snapback sanctions, which
as I understand, you can describe it
better than I, are draconian?
No, the snapback sanctions are not
draconian because largely most of them
have been in place for a long time done
unilaterally rather than through through
the UN thing. Um but um it will it is of
course I mean the snapback is also other
sanctions and other parts of it come
into effect about um being able to
import weapons and other things. But in
a few days time what are we today 6th of
October 18th of October the whole JCPOA
structure comes to an end. And what's
significant about this is that at the
moment the United States is trying to if
you like impose sanctions and Russia and
China are saying no we will not allow
that to happen. We will not allow the
committee to meet that will impose
sanctions on Iran. We won't accept even
the committee to meet. And what's more
from the first of this month uh Russia
is president of the council and can
block it and will block it. So it's
clear that this structure that has been
put in place by Trump channels
funnels Iran down to a single point.
Either it has to accept the ultimatum o
of the United States. No, zero
enrichment, no missiles, no foreign
policy or else it'll be military attack.
I mean because all the bridges to
negotiations thea
ended with snapback and then the JCPA
itself ends in a few days time. So I
mean where else is it going to go except
towards this endless sort of funnel
towards some sort of conflict as a
resolution because there's no diplomatic
structures then left after the 80s.
Here's uh Prime Minister Netanyahu
pretty happy that his buddies have taken
over Tik Tok. Cut cut cut number five.
We're going to have to use the tools of
battle. You know, the the weapons change
over time. You can't fight today with
swords. That doesn't work very well.
Okay? And you can't fight with fight
with cavalry. That doesn't work very
well. And you have these new things, you
know, like drones, things like that. I
won't get into that. But we have to
fight with the weapons that apply to the
battlefields in which we're engaged. And
the most important ones are social
media. And the most important purchase
that is going on right now is
class followers.
Tik Tok.
Tik Tok. Number one. Number one.
And I hope it goes through because it's
uh
it can be consequential.
And the other one, what's the other one
that's most important?
X. X.
Very good.
So they his his friend Larry Ellison,
the billionaire Zionist oligarch who now
runs at Paramount and CBS
uh has taken over Tik Tok. And I guess
they're going to try and take X,
formerly Twitter from Elon Musk. Good
luck uh with that. But and there's going
to be and this is what is going to make
it so difficult in the United States and
I'm saying this as an outsider but the
push back that is a real shift taking
place if you look at what is going on by
the people who have influence with the
MAGA group and with young Americans both
conservative and democratic. there is a
strong shift away from support for
Israel and more than just away from
Israel, antagonism
uh to the idea that America has got to
be led um in in Israel to these things
such as Gaza or an attack on Iran. And
it's going to get I think quite bitter
because the Zionist leaders are and you
Steve Miller and um also Kellogg and all
the others are very tough and saying you
know they they've got to support Israel.
Got to support Israel. If they don't
there will be consequences.
You know I wrote a book about this
called Constitutional Chaos. What
happens when the government breaks its
own laws. The book is 10 years old, but
it's as relevant today as uh as when I
wrote it. These are very dark times
uh in which we live. One last question.
Don't you think the Americans and the
Israelis realize how punishing the
Iranian response will be on Israel if
and when the US and Israel uh attack
Iran. far more punishing than when Prime
Minister Netanyahu cried uncle back in
June.
Uh there's was there is a a quite a
famous Goldman who was the editor of
Asia Times and and not so long ago well
a little while ago he went to one of
these secret closed door meetings with
American politicians, intelligence
chiefs and um military and and it was
talking about Russia and Ukraine and
they all produced these ridiculous
statistics about how Russia Russia is
about to collapse and is losing, you
know, a million men. And he said to
them, you know, this is all BS. This
isn't true at all. You know it. And he
said, the stark fact was, of course,
they knew it. They still said it because
they just not could not come to accept
that America would no longer be given
the orders in the world. And they
couldn't accept that. So they went on
saying the things that they know were
untrue. And I think that's what we're
seeing about Iran. They're saying, "Oh,
it'll collapse. It'll be easy." They
know that there are going to be
problems. I'm sure there are Israelis
that understand that, but they can't say
it. You're not allowed to say that. That
is like treachery to say that um what?
that America and Israel acting together
is not strong enough to completely
obliterate Iran. How could you say that?
That's unacceptable. So, they don't say
it.
Alistair, thank you very much, my dear
friend. It's a pleasure to chat with
you, even if the subject matter is uh is
so gloomy.
Thank you for your ideas, for your
intellect, and your and your beautiful
analysis. All the best. We'll look
forward to seeing you next week.
Thank you very much, Judge. Thank you.
All the best to you, too. How are you
feeling? Better.
Yes. Thank you. Uh, and coming up later
today at 10:00 this morning, Ray
McGovern at 11:30, Larry Johnson. A full
day for you. At 2:00 this afternoon, Max
Blumenthal at 3:00 this afternoon, Scott
Ritter at 4:00 this afternoon. Professor
Jeffrey Saxs, judge Npalitano for
Judging Freedom.
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State of Oregon v. Trump (3:25-cv-01756)
District Court, D. Oregon
Assigned To: Karin Immergut

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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF OREGON
STATE OF OREGON and the
CITY OF PORTLAND,
Plaintiffs,
v.
DONALD TRUMP, in his official capacity as
President of the United States; PETE
HEGSETH, in his official capacity as
Secretary of Defense; U.S. DEPARTMENT
OF DEFENSE; KRISTI NOEM, in her
official capacity as Secretary of Homeland
Security; and U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY,
Defendants.
Case No. 3:25-cv-1756-IM

OPINION AND ORDER GRANTING
MOTION FOR TEMPORARY
RESTRAINING ORDER

Dan Rayfield, Oregon Attorney General; Benjamin Gutman, Oregon Solicitor General;
Dustin Buehler, Special Counsel; Scott Kennedy, Brian Simmonds Marshall, Thomas Castelli,
Ian Van Loh, and Rachel Sowray, Senior Assistant Attorneys General; and Alexander C. Jones
and Derek Olson, Assistant Attorneys General, OREGON DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, 100 SW
Market Street, Portland, OR 97201. Attorneys for Plaintiff State of Oregon.
Robert Taylor, Portland City Attorney; Caroline Turco, Senior Deputy City Attorney; and
Naomi Sheffield, Chief Deputy City Attorney, OFFICE OF THE PORTLAND CITY ATTORNEY,
1221 SW Fourth Avenue, Room 430, Portland, OR 97204. Attorneys for Plaintiff City of
Portland.
Brett A. Shumate, Assistant Attorney General; Eric J. Hamilton, Deputy Assistant Attorney
General; Alexander K. Haas, Branch Director, Federal Programs Branch; Jean Lin, Special
Litigation Counsel, Federal Programs Branch; Christopher D. Edelman, Senior Counsel; and
Benjamin S. Kurland, Trial Attorney, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, CIVIL DIVISION, FEDERAL
PROGRAMS BRANCH, 1100 L Street, NW, Washington, DC 20005. Attorneys for Defendants.
Case 3:25-cv-01756-IM Document 56 Filed 10/04/25 Page 1 of 31
PAGE 2 – OPINION AND ORDER
IMMERGUT, District Judge.
This case involves the intersection of three of the most fundamental principles in our
constitutional democracy. The first concerns the relationship between the federal government
and the states. The second concerns the relationship between the United States armed forces and
domestic law enforcement. The third concerns the proper role of the judicial branch in ensuring
that the executive branch complies with the laws and limitations imposed by the legislative
branch. Whether we choose to follow what the Constitution mandates with respect to these three
relationships goes to the heart of what it means to live under the rule of law in the United States.
On June 7, 2025, President Donald J. Trump issued a Memorandum broadly authorizing
the federalization of National Guard service members under 10 U.S.C. § 12406, without
specifying a designated location or duration. This Memorandum authorized federalized troops to
temporarily protect U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (“ICE”) and other federal
employees “who are performing Federal functions, including the enforcement of Federal law,
and to protect Federal property, at locations where protests against these functions are occurring
or are likely to occur based on current threat assessments and planned operations.” Declaration
of Major General Timothy L. Rieger (“Rieger Decl.”), Ex. D, ECF 37 at 20.
In the wake of this June 7, 2025 Memorandum, protests ensued at the ICE facility in
Portland. From June 11th to June 25th, these protests included violent behavior and required an
increased law enforcement presence by both the Portland Police Bureau (“PPB”) and federal law
enforcement agencies. After June 25, 2025, however, the protests were generally peaceful in
nature with only sporadic incidents of violence and disruptive behavior. By late September, these
protests typically involved twenty or fewer people.
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On September 27, 2025, President Trump posted a message on his Truth Social account
stating that he was directing Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War, to provide troops to protect
“War ravaged Portland” from “Antifa, and other domestic terrorists” and authorizing “Full
Force, if necessary.” Declaration of Assistant Attorney General Brian Marshall (“Marshall
Decl.”), Ex. 12, ECF 9-12 at 2. In response, on September 28th, Secretary Hegseth issued a
memorandum authorizing the deployment and federalization of 200 of Oregon National Guard
service members, over the objection of Oregon’s Governor, Tina Kotek.
That same day, the State of Oregon and the City of Portland (collectively, “Plaintiffs”)
brought this lawsuit against President Trump, Secretary Hegseth, the Secretary of Homeland
Security Kristi Noem, and the U.S. Departments of Defense and Homeland Security
(collectively, “Defendants”). Plaintiffs allege that Defendants’ actions are ultra vires1 and
therefore unlawful because they violate 10 U.S.C. § 12406, the Posse Comitatus Act, and 10
U.S.C. § 175 by federalizing Oregon’s National Guard. Plaintiffs also allege that Defendants’
conduct violates the Tenth Amendment and the separation of powers doctrine by infringing on
Oregon’s state sovereignty and police powers. Finally, Plaintiffs assert that Secretary Hegseth’s
Memorandum violates the Administrative Procedure Act (“APA”) because it is not in accordance
with the law, is in excess of statutory jurisdiction, authority, or limitations, and is arbitrary and
capricious.
Plaintiffs move for a temporary restraining order (“TRO”) and stay of Defendants’
September 28, 2025, Memorandum ordering the federalization and deployment of Oregon
1 Ultra vires actions allow courts to adjudicate “constitutional challenges to presidential
acts” and “actions by subordinate Executive Branch officials that extend beyond delegated
statutory authority.” Murphy Co. v. Biden, 65 F.4th 1122, 1128–29 (9th Cir. 2023) (first
citing Franklin v. Massachusetts, 505 U.S. 788, 790–91 (1992); then citing Larson v. Domestic
& Foreign Com. Corp. 337 U.S. 682, 689–90 (1949)).
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National Guard service members to Portland. Defendants respond that this Court may not second
guess the President’s determination that conditions in Portland warranted a federal military
response. Defendants also contend that their conduct did not violate the U.S. Constitution or any
statutory provision or exceed their statutory authority.
This Court has considered the briefing and declarations submitted in this case, the
submission of amici, and the presentation of the parties at the hearing on Plaintiffs’ TRO on
October 3, 2025. For the foregoing reasons, this Court finds that Plaintiffs have met their burden
at this stage of the litigation and GRANTS Plaintiffs’ motion for a temporary restraining order.