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Massie Stuns Press With Epstein Intelligence Remark
The Young Turks
Dec 20, 2025 #TheYoungTurks #BreakingNews #TYT

Republican Rep. Thomas Massie finally admitted that Jeffrey Epstein has ties to Israeli intelligence. Cenk Uygur and Yasmin Khan discuss on The Young Turks.



Transcript

All right, guys. Uh, welcome to the
revolution. Uh, so I'm going to give you
guys some updates on some ideas and and
and wonderful things that you guys have
done in a minute. But first, I wanted to
give you a story that we promised you
earlier on the Young Turks. It fits into
the revolution because it's a story uh
about how we are uh there are forces
inside America trying to control uh
American government uh on behalf of a
different country in this case Israel.
So let's do this story.
Epstein also had close ties to our own
intelligence agencies and Israel's
intelligence agencies. That's why
there's so much u effort in trying to
stop this and and I do believe they'll
try to stop it somewhere else. Uh, and
that's going to backfire on them, too.
I love that he finally said it. Yes,
it's definitely Israel. We're going to
show you here with a new story from
Dropside News that shows once again that
Epstein was working with the Israelis.
And so, the mainstream media has been
ignoring it. He But he's a US
congressman. So, they're probably going
to have to address it. And if they're
going to address it, they're going to
probably do what Dana Bash did with
Marjorie Taylor Green. Are you saying
that Israel was involved? That sounds
conspiratorial.
Yeah, because it was a literal
conspiracy where Epstein was working
behind the scenes to help Israel. So,
let's give you the facts and you'll see
for yourself. So, um latest article from
job site, Jeffrey Epste pursued Swiss
Rothschild Bank to finance Israeli cyber
weapons empire.
Gee, I wonder if he was working with
Israel.
Okay, look, I it's unfortunate that this
bank happens to be called Rothschild
because there's there is a actual
conspiracy theory that is anti-Semitic
about how the Rothschilds run the whole
world. I think it's a comical theory,
but in this case, it just happens to be
a bank and a person with that same name.
So, the central figures here are Epstein
Ehud Barack, the former prime minister
of Israel, and this is hilarious,
Baroness Arian Rothschild. We have a
baroness who would also of course like
to help Israel and so she's the CEO of
Edmund de Rothschild group. Uh that's an
enormous Swiss private bank. Okay. Epste
spent years trying to connect Barack and
the Rothschild and that's what the story
is about. So they explain in one note,
Epstein passed along tentalizing offer
from the Rothschild to Barack. If Ahood
wants to make serious money, he will
have to build a relationship with me.
take time so that we can truly
understand one another. So now the
Baroness
wants Israel to get cyber weapons. And
now that's the former prime minister of
Israel. So she's like, "Come here and
I'll give you the money and then you
could do this plot for us, but you have
to get to know me first." Okay. Then uh
they explained Barack asked for advice,
deferring to Epstein's supposed
expertise on women. He said, 'I'm ready,
but I need your advice regarding how
ladies is your forte.
Not really. Young children that he's
raping is his forte, but okay. Uh,
according to Drop Site News, the purpose
of connecting Rothschild and Barack was
to secure financing for this. Quote,
Barack's private communications showed
discussions about a wide range of cyber
weapons, concepts drawn from Israeli
military research inspired in part by
the astonishing scope of US global
surveillance apparatus revealed by NSA
whistleblower Edward Snowden in 2013.
Oh, great. The Israelis need more cyber
weapons. And so you've got Epstein
trying to arrange that with the former
prime minister and the and the good
baroness the Rothschild. Okay. Um so
there's now by the way to be clear
there's no evidence to confirm whether
or not the Rothschild bank actually
directly financed the cyber weapon
startup. So we don't know from the
material that we have here. This is the
leaked emails of Aud Barack. Uh these
are part of the Hondela uh leaks and
they have been confirmed in parts by
drop site news and the US government. So
but in October 2015 they explained the
do the Rothschild negotiated a $25
million contract with Epstein's southern
trust company the same entity Epste used
to fund Barack's intelligence link
security startup uh reporting homeland
security known as Carbine earlier that
year.
So now that's interesting because
um here is an effort to fund Israel's
cyber weapons
and Epstein is deeply involved in it and
he's getting money too. So people
wondered where did all of Epstein's
money come from. Now look, they probably
came from a variety of different
sources, but apparently some of it came
to procure help procure cyber weapons
for Israel. Now, since this is such a
huge story and Epstein is one of the
largest stories certainly of this
administration and maybe of any
administration and the mainstream press
is reporting, oh, did Donald Trump do
it? Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Donald
Trump. Okay, Donald Trump is one of the
people who might or might not have done
it. He's the president of the United
States, so I understand why you're
paying a lot of attention to that, but
we found out who he was working with. It
was Israel. Do you want to pay attention
to that at all? No. No. No. No. No. No
way. No way. No way. Don't say it. Don't
say it. Cover it up for Israel. But
we're objective.
If you're objective, why are you trying
to hide the news? That's super weird.
Okay. So, now you've published many
other pieces as well. Drop site News has
about EP's links to the Israeli
government and intelligence agencies,
and we've told you about that. He was
trying to get America to bomb Syria on
behalf of Israel. Then he tried to get
America to bomb Iran on behalf of
Israel. uh he arranged a meeting with
Vladimir Putin and Ahoud Barack that
Ahoud Barack couldn't arrange. So he is
more powerful than the former prime
minister of Israel. He's powerful enough
to get a meeting with Vladimir Putin
anytime he wants. He was working with
some of the top bankers, some of the
countries in the world. And all of it in
all of the emails are to help Israel.
But mainstream media is like what was
the adage? Was it follow the propaganda,
follow the husb?
Wait, it was follow the money, right?
The journalism adage. No, no, don't
follow the money. Don't follow it.
Whatever you do, don't follow it. Okay,
guys, we got it. We got it. You love
Israel, but you're supposed to be
American media. The way that they are so
unbelievably biased is maddening. Which
leads us to the next part of the story.
Meanwhile, the Washington Post editorial
board is chiding Congress for voting to
release the Epstein files. Gee, I wonder
why the Washington Post editorial board
cares. Why hide the Epstein files? No,
please don't find out it's Israel.
Please, please shut up everybody. You're
all anti-semites. All of America is
anti-semmites.
You of course the children of America
should be raped for Israel's advantage
because but if you say it, you're
anti-semmites. You No, no, no. Bring
your children otherwise you're an
anti-semite. You have to allow them to
do it. Anti-semite.
No. Absurd. And stop saying that. that
it isn't about all Jews. It's about
these particular guys who are not loyal
to Jews overall. They're loyal to a
country, Israel, a government, Israel.
Okay. So,
uh and the board did slam Donald Trump
here uh for flip-flopping on this issue
of it uh whether they should be
unveiled. They didn't want them to
flip-flop. They wanted them to hide the
Epstein files forever so their beloved
Israel wouldn't be exposed. Anyway,
here's editorial board. quote, "The
whole sorted exercise is a testament to
the collapse of political trust, and no
one comes out looking good." Yes, the
political trust has collapsed because
a-holes like you go, "Don't release
anything secret and nefarious to the
American people. They're not to be
trusted. They're all dirty
anti-semmites." No, you hide all the
evidence of all the wrongdoing by the
powerful and you screw over the American
people. I wonder why they lost political
trust. Huh? I can't figure it out. I
mean, really, is the Washington Post
editorial board that stupid?
Really? Are you that mentally deficient
that you can't figure out that that's
why maybe people lost trust in the
government? Cuz they keep hiding things
like the Epstein files, the the brain
trust that the Washington Post got
together. This is the editorial board.
They're like, "What do you think? Uh,
you think if we hide the Epstein files,
they'll have more trust in the
government?" Oh, of course. Of course.
You think if we hide the fact that Epc
was working with Israel, they'll trust
the government more? Of course, of
course, of course. Hide. Hide. Hide.
Hide. And what are you in the business
of? Journalism.
Are you Are you Is that journalism?
Hiding the dirty secrets of the
powerful. Well, these days they that is
what mainstream media does. That is what
the Washington Post does. So, it's not
that surprising at all that they would
think, yeah, that's our job is to hide
the crimes of the powerful and to help
them crush the powerless. Okay. So, they
continue. The lone congressional
objector, Representative Klay Higgins,
has a point when he says the
indiscriminate release abandons 250
years of criminal justice procedure in
America and could result in innocent
people being hurt. Absurd. They're like,
"Oh no, the poor little innocent
pedophiles. Oh, don't let Oh, no. Oh,
the kids who got raped, who cares about
them? They're useless. They're
irrelevant. We've already gotten all the
use we need out of them. But the
pedophiles, won't anyone protect the
pedophiles?" Now look, I understand what
they're saying. Well, what if they
somebody was talking to Epstein or is in
his book and his name gets released, but
we don't know whether they did it or
not. Well, first of all, we're going to
get the information. And so, we're not
that dumb that we see a name. For
example, Donald Trump and Bill Clinton
are already two names we know. Are we
assuming for sure that they did it?
Maybe partisans are, right? Oh, yeah. I
bet Trump did it, but Clinton didn't. I
bet Clinton did it, but Trump didn't.
That's partisan brain, right? But the
rest of us get it. We don't know yet. We
don't know if Trump did it. We don't
know if Clinton did it. Maybe we'll get
information that'll show or not, but
we're not nearly as dumb as you guys are
in the Washington Post editorial board.
So, we're not just going to see a name
and be like, "Oh, that's it. He
definitely did it." Right. And second of
all, if you say that someone definitely
did it, and they didn't, they could sue
you. Alan Dersitz can't wait. He was in
a segment with my co-host Kasparian uh
on LA Arabia and he's like, "Oh, I can't
wait to get the victim's names cuz we're
going to punish them. We're going to sue
them all. Whoever says a wrong name. So,
he's already chomping at the bit. You
know, it does whether it's a wrong name
or you don't have sufficient evidence to
prove it. No, they're can't those
billionaires can't wait to have somebody
like Alan Derswood sue the the victims.
They they're already lined up to do
that. But the Washington Post board
apparently didn't think about that. They
don't know that that's possible. And
who's abandoning criminal justice? Look
guys, think about this core issue,
right? So they say, "No, no, we should
keep hiding the names cuz what if the
pedophiles are harmed?" Or, "But what if
one of them is not a pedophile?" Okay.
Well, wait a minute. If you're in favor
of justice, then why didn't you do an
editorial about the government not
prosecuting the actual pedophiles? So,
that's a great way for us to know who
did it and who didn't do it. The
government finds the people who did it
and they prosecute them. And then the
other ones, they say they didn't do it,
so you and we're not going to prosecute
them. That's how justice would normally
work. But no, the Washington Post says,
"Don't do any of that." And who cares
that they didn't prosecute any of the
guilty because we don't care about the
kids who were raped. We don't care about
them at all. We don't care about the
American people. We don't care that
Epstein is working with Israel. We don't
care about any of that. All we care
about is protecting the super powerful
who are connected to Epstein. Gee, I
wonder why. I wonder why. So, uh, the
board argued that the bill is filled
with loopholes. Wait, you don't want it
released in the first place. So, what do
you care about the loopholes?
Information that is released might not
necessarily be incriminating. Again,
we're not, uh, we're not as dumb as you
are. We can make that, uh, distinction.
And according to both the FBI and the
federal lead prosecutor in charge of
negotiating FC's 2008 plea deal
agreement, Epstein was the only one
abusing children. Yeah, if you're an
idiot, you believe that. And uh but if
you were a journalist, you'd go, "Well,
is that really true? Let me investigate
a little bit more." In fact, that's what
Julie Brown did at the Miami Herald. And
she did a fantastic of job of of
realizing and showing and proving that
no, the 2008 was a sweetheart deal.
Epstein had committed way more rape uh
than that uh you know that case uh
you know was adjudicated as because they
just gave him a plea deal and they let
him go out in in during the daytime
basically used the the jail as a as a
hotel. It was a disgusting deal and that
the corrupt prosecutor who did it was
later rewarded uh and made a labor
secretary randomly under Donald Trump in
his first term. So, but they take that
obviously corrupt deal and the
Washington Post is like, "You see that?
That proves the innocence." No, it
proves that you're part of the
corruption. It proves that you love to
cover up the crimes of the powerful
while pretending to be reporters and
journalists. You're the exact opposite.
And this is what we have to fix about
our country. Our mainstream media is a
joke. They don't do the news. They do
propaganda. And apparently they do
propaganda from time to time on behalf
of foreign countries, on behalf of the
powerful, on behalf of the donors.
So they've been lying to us our whole
life. Oh yeah, no, the politicians are
honest. No, they're not. The politicians
take money from Israel, from big pharma,
from oil, from military industrial
complex, and they serve those donors
loyally. And the job of the Washington
Post is to go and cover that up. Cover
they're they're the getaway driver in
this crime. and their job is to cover up
all of the evidence. No, no, no. Don't
give them the news. Give them
propaganda. Give them propaganda. Oh,
no. Politicians are not affected by the
millions of dollars that they get. None
of the When we talk about legislation,
we are going to pretend they're having
debates. We're not going to tell you
that. In reality, they all got paid by
donors and voted with the donors
approximately
100% of the time. And the legendary
Washington Post, the actual publication
that where the adage came from, follow
the money during Watergate says don't
follow the money. Don't follow evidence.
Hide all the evidence. And that's what
real journalism looks like. No, it's an
absolute piece of trash. And the whole
point of that paper is to cover up the
crimes of the powerful to make sure you
never find out about it. I hope I was
clear enough.
What a ridiculous ed editorial board
filled with obviously corrupt,
disgusting people who are against the
American voters and against American
citizens. Now, I think I'm even more
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Trump Forgot To Redact THIS...
Harry Sisson
Dec 20, 2025 The Harry Sisson Show

Harry Sisson breaks down the many examples where Trump is mentioned in the Epstein files despite MAGA saying otherwise. It seems the DOJ forgot to redact some of these files...



Transcript

Well, folks, it seems like Donald Trump
forgot to redact this. He forgot to
remove it from the Epstein files. I
think it's pretty clear to anybody who
went through the files yesterday that
Donald Trump's Department of Justice and
his team scrubbed his name from the
files. They removed any mention or any
photos of Trump and Epstein together, or
they simply just didn't release any
documents where Trump is mentioned, any
photos of Trump altogether. Of course,
they didn't release all the documents as
we know. And that would actually make
sense because Fox News of all people has
reported that they learned the
Department of Justice used the same
redaction standard that was applied to
victims for politically exposed
individuals and government officials,
which likely means Donald Trump. So,
it's pretty likely that they completely
removed him from the Epstein files, but
they weren't perfect. They missed a
couple of things. A couple of things
fell through the crack and Donald Trump
was implicated in a very serious way.
So, I'm going to go over this and a
couple of different examples where
Donald Trump is mentioned. Before I do
any of that, I ask that you subscribe
down below. It goes an incredibly long
way. Drop a like on the video, comment,
let me know what you think about the
story. And without further ado, let's
start here. This is something that I
actually noticed. I picked up on and
reported on in a video yesterday on this
show. And it's one of the documents, one
of the photos that was released in the
Epstein files. And it's a a photo frame.
That's the description. And it's a photo
of Epste in a frame. It says once in a
blue moon all around it. And as you can
see on the photo frame, there are moons
and on the back of it there's nothing.
It's just your typical photo frame. But
I noticed something in the photo which
is Jeffrey Epstein is holding a check
with Donald Trump's name on it right
there for an amount of $22,500.
And if you'll remember back in the
summer, the Wall Street Journal reported
on a photo of Epstein holding that
check. The writing below the check says,
"Jeffrey, showing early talents with
money plus women, sells fully
depreciated, redacted woman's name,
that's the black box, her name is under
it, to Donald Trump for $22,500,
showed early people skills, too. Even
though I handled the deal, I didn't get
any of the money on the girl." So
Epstein in this photo, that same check
is holding it in the one the Wall Street
Journal reported on early in the summer
where there is a redacted woman and
Epste is hanging out with his friends.
And then we have another example of
Epstein holding that check with a woman
whose face is redacted. We don't know
who that woman is, but clearly Epstein
was parading this check around, taking
multiple photos of it with different
people. And the check again is for
Donald Trump to buy a woman from Jeffrey
Epstein. If that's not implicated, I
don't know what is. That is insane. And
Republicans are trying to take a victory
lap right now and say, "Well, Donald
Trump's not mentioned." Yeah, he's
mentioned. He has a check in the Epstein
files where he's buying a woman from
Epstein. And to add on to it, it's a
framed photo. So Epstein was keeping
this photo around his house. He was
clearly proud of it that Donald Trump
was paying him for a woman. And that's
not all. That's not all. If you can even
believe it, that's bad enough. Donald
Trump being named in the Epstein files
in this way. It got even worse because
this is part of a complaint against
Jeffrey Epste. Moving on from the first
photo, this is a complaint against
Jeffrey Epstein where a girl who was 14
years old at the time talked about her
experience with not only Epstein but
Donald Trump. Jane Doe, that's the
pseudonym she was using, of course, to
protect her identity. I mean, she was 14
at the time, uh, in this complaint,
writes that she made visits with Epstein
and Maxwell, she was very uncomfortable
during them, under 16, but she felt like
she couldn't refuse them. During this
time, Epstein started to pay for voice
lessons for her and insisted that her
career would not move forward without
the voice lessons. It's a clear case of
grooming, of manipulation. There's no
debate about that. But under section 17,
during one of D's encounters with
Epstein, he took her to Mara Lago where
he introduced her to its owner, Donald
J. Trump. Introducing 14-year-old Do to
Donald J. Trump, Epstein elbowed Trump
playfully, asking him, referring to Do,
quote, "This is a good one, right?"
Trump smiled and nodded in agreement.
They both chuckled, and Do felt
uncomfortable, but at the time was too
young to understand why. Again, if
that's not implicated, I don't know what
is. Right. Epste in those leaked emails
said that Donald Trump knew about the
girls. And now we have an example where
Trump and Epstein are joking about a
14-year-old girl being a quote unquote
good one. And in the context of Epste
and Trump, what do you think good one
means? Do you think uh it it's something
innocent, or do you think maybe it's
something more nefarious? I'm going with
more nefarious knowing Jeff Jeffrey
Epste of course and Gain Maxwell but
also Donald Trump and the pattern of his
behavior. That's insane. What we just
looked at grown men speaking about a
young girl in that way is insane. It's
something Republicans don't want to
grapple with. But as I mentioned,
there's more and it gets worse. There
were also some new flight logs released.
Now, we know that Donald Trump has been
mentioned in seven different flight logs
before the Epstein files, quote unquote,
the Epstein files. Some of them were
released. Seven different times Donald
Trump was named. Now we have another
example where not only Donald Trump is
named, but Mara, Tiffany, and their
nanny at the time, which means that
Donald Trump was not only bringing his
wife around Epstein, but his daughter,
his daughter, where it's likely that
Donald Trump knew about the crimes, he's
bringing his daughter around Epstein.
I I mean, what do you even say to that?
What do you even say to the the gross
nature, the disgustingness of what we're
talking about here? It's horrific. It's
it's stomach churning. But there's more.
As I mentioned, uh, no photos basically
of Donald Trump and Epstein, even though
we know there are photos. We know that
Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.
It's been extensively reported on.
Donald Trump's own team has confirmed
it. Susie Wilds in that Vanity Fair
interview. But one photo they forgot to
redact. And seemingly the Department of
Justice missed Donald Trump being in it
is this one. On first glance, it just
looks like, you know, the the counter
that Jeffrey Epste had in his Manhattan
mansion where he had all these different
photos with famous people. You can see
the Pope. You can see Bill Clinton back
there. You know, the typical thing that
we've seen before in Epste's house. But
if you zoom into the bottom left, you
can see Donald Trump behind the first
photo. You can see the photo that's
already out in the public of Trump,
Melania, Epste, and Gilane Maxwell. But
zooming in, you can see what someone
appears to look like. Donald Trump, I'm
99% sure it is him. It's been reported
on that it is him. Standing around with
girls. They forgot to redact that part.
That part slipped through the cracks and
now we have it. That's pretty bad. I
mean, that's pretty bad that Donald
Trump is in this photo just, you know,
casually hanging out with women. And he
said, you know, this never happened. He
said he barely knew Epstein. And yet,
this to me seems like he knew Epstein.
And Thomas Massie, Representative Thomas
Massie, one of the people behind the
bill, is very upset with the amount of
redactions, the lack of mention to many
other people that he knows are in the
Epstein files. And he posted this, which
has gone viral. It says, and this is
referencing, you know, the Department of
Justice attempt to protect Donald Trump
to keep him out of the files. The public
law that was passed, the Epstein Files
Transparency Act, specifically says that
no record shall be withheld, delayed, or
redacted on the basis of embarrassment,
reputational harm, or political
sensitivity, including to any government
official, public figure, or foreign
dignitary. Yet, we just heard from Fox
News that the same redaction standard
was used for victims, was also used for
politicians, aka Donald Trump. And that
is blatantly against the law.
Obstruction of justice, plain and
simple. you go to a jury that's
convicted every single day of the week.
Seems like that took place. I mean,
Donald Trump is not mentioned. We only
have to really get in in in deep into
the Epstein files to find any mention of
him. Yeah, it sounds like there's some
obstruction of justice taking place. And
despite what we've seen, I just want to
show you this photo, right? This is one
of the photos released. That's Epste
with a very young girl sitting on his
lap. It's creepy and so I'll take it off
the screen. I want you to see it. But
the point I want to make, point I want
to make is that this is someone who
Donald Trump was friends with that photo
you just saw of that young girl sitting
on Epstein's lap. Epste himself said
that Donald Trump knew about the girls.
Victim's lawyers said that Epstein would
bring in two to three young girls every
single day. No matter where he was,
Paris, Florida, New York City, it
doesn't matter. He'd bring them in. And
if you were hanging around Epstein,
you're one of these wealthy guys like
Donald Trump was. He was hanging out
with Epstein all the time. you'd almost
certainly without a doubt have seen
these girls and obviously been curious
as to what they were doing and know what
was happening. This guy, I'll show you
one more time. This guy was best friends
with Donald Trump. That guy, you know,
you're as good as the company you keep.
Isn't that the saying? And I think it's
applicable here. So, look, I will leave
the video there. Don't let MAGA take
their victory lap. Because even in the
less than 1% of Epstein files we've
gotten, according to Roana, Donald Trump
has been implicated. Imagine what's in
the 99%.
So, look, I'll leave it there. Thank you
so much for watching. Make sure to
subscribe down below, drop a like on the
video, comment, let me know what you
think about this story. And as I always
say, I greatly appreciate you. And I
hope you have an amazing rest of your

Justice Department pulls LATE-NIGHT TRICK to hide Trump in Epstein files
Brian Tyler Cohen
Dec 20, 2025 Brian Tyler Cohen

BREAKING #news - Justice Department caught hiding multiple already-released Epstein files



Transcript

In yet another instance of violating the
law as it relates to the Epstein
Transparency Act, new reporting just
released shows that far from the DOJ
releasing all of the files as was
required by law, the DOJ is actually
rescending files that reflect poorly or
embarrassed Donald Trump. According to
the Associated Press, at least 16 files
disappeared from the Justice
Department's public web page for
documents related to Jeffrey Epstein,
including a photograph showing President
Donald Trump less than a day after they
were posted with no explanation from the
government and no notice to the public.
The missing files, which were available
Friday and no longer accessible by
Saturday, included images of paintings
depicting nude women and one showing a
series of photographs along a credenza
and in drawers. In that image, inside a
drawer, among other photos, was a
photograph of Trump alongside Epste,
Melania Trump, and Epstein's longtime
associate, Gain Maxwell. The Justice
Department did not say why the files
were removed or whether their
disappearance was intentional. A
spokesperson for the department did not
immediately respond to a request for
comment. The move was also highlighted
by the House Oversight Democrats, who
tweeted, "This photo, file 468 from the
Epstein files that includes Donald
Trump, has apparently now been removed
from the DOJ release. Ag Pam Bondi, is
this true? What else is being covered
up? We need transparency for the
American public. The move is evidence
that the DOJ's actions as it relates to
the release of these files has focused
squarely on protecting Donald Trump. Not
seeking accountability for Epstein's
accompllices. Not seeking transparency
on behalf of the victims, but making
sure that Donald J. Trump is taken care
of first and foremost. And bizarrely,
the byproduct of all of this is that it
only intensifies the narrative that
Donald Trump is indeed implicated and
has something to hide. Even Piers
Morgan, who is pretty vocal in terms of
his support for Donald Trump, tweeted,
quote, "Memo to the Trump
administration, the longer you drag out
the Epstein files, and the more of it
you heavily redact, the worse the
scandal will get. What we're seeing now,
as many of your own supporters are
saying, is the opposite of full
transparency that you promised." And
again, there will be no full
transparency because full transparency
would mean that Donald Trump himself
gets exposed. And clearly that's not
going to happen, especially at the hands
of Pam Bondi's DOJ because he has
something to hide. Think about it. Why
would Trump subject himself to all of
this if he wasn't hiding something worse
in the files? You think that Trump
doesn't understand the damage that he's
doing to himself by suppressing these
files every day for 11 months? You think
he doesn't see the damage that he's
doing with his base? You think he
doesn't see the damage he's doing to his
reputation? You think he doesn't
understand what it means to lose the
news cycle day in and day out, 24 hours
a day, 7 days a week, for months on end.
The only logical explanation is that the
only thing worse than all of that is
actually allowing us to see what's in
those files, to see the truth. And
that's a point that Mark Elias made
here. Doesn't the Trump administration
recognize that that by virtue of
prolonging this cover up, all they're
doing is is increasing the pain for
themselves? Like, we can all see what's
happening. We can all see when they
release, you know, a fraction of the
Epstein files already bad enough, but
then the files that they do release
heavily redacted and just page after
page, there were grand jury transcripts
for the whole thing, 100% of them were
redacted. Don't they recognize that
they're just adding to this narrative
that they are already participating in a
coverup?
Yes, they are. And so you have to ask
why.
Right?
So there are, I think, two reasons, both
of which are true. The first is they
have decided that this is an instance
where the cover up is not worse than the
crime. Right? Everyone always says that
the cover up is always worse than the
crime. No, no, that's actually not true.
Like sometimes the crime's really bad
and so the cover up is actually better
than acknowledging what's underneath. As
crappy as the cover up looks, like
you're actually better off. So you
should judge
and you know, you should consider why
they are going to all this effort as you
either decide to give them the benefit
of the doubt or not give them the
benefit of the doubt. And so at this
point, we can expect that Donald Trump
will continue to hide these files
because frankly, if they've gone this
far, they're clearly prepared to go all
the way. If they'd endured these blows
on a daily basis, then what's to stop
them from continuing to do whatever is
necessary to protect Donald Trump at all
costs? Which raises the question, what
can we do on the outside to ensure that
the law, a law that Trump himself
signed, by the way, is actually complied
with. I asked that question to the
author of the Epstein Transparency Act,
Roana. Here's what he had to say. And so
what recourse is there when you've got
the DOJ again whose job it is to enforce
the law that's actually the one
violating it. That's that's the one
deciding to create, you know, new
standards by fiat where they say, "Okay,
we're not only are we going to not
release the full files as was required
by this law, but we're also going to
create this new standard where where you
know, if you're involved in government,
even though this was a governmental
aligned pedophile ring, if you're
involved in government that get we we've
now given ourselves license uh to just
redact your name from this thing." What
recourse is there when the when the when
the police are the one who's who are
crooked?
Well, the first recourse is public
opinion and that is what moved the bill
in the first place. Yeah. The reality is
that Donald Trump thought he would get
away with this. He didn't expect that
his MAGA base would literally unravel.
This is what unraveled Trump. This is
why you have 50 discharge petitions.
This is what split his base. Uh and the
reason it happened is because of these
survivors. They came to the capital two
times and people said this is outrageous
and they're going to come again. So this
idea that justice thinks, okay, this is
the end of it. They're just wrong. Watch
the outrage when survivors are back and
saying that they violated the law and
they have not uh complied. More broadly,
people are subjecting themselves to the
risk of prosecution. They are
obstructing justice. And this is not
just about these three remaining years.
A new administration could prosecute
these individuals. The statute of
limitations would not have run out. And
I'm one of those these people. I don't
know about you, Brian. My view is yes, I
want healing and reconciliation uh after
Trump's gone, but I want accountability,
too. Right? Not going to have
reconciliation without accountability.
And if you violated the Epstein
Transparency Act, if you bombed innocent
people off the coasts in the Caribbean,
uh if you uh ripped people off their out
of their families on as ICE, there is
going to be criminal accountability. And
that is in a new administration. And
then Massie and I were talking about
articles of impeachment and inherent
contempt. The difference here is you've
got Republicans, MAGA Republicans who
may go with for this. In fact, someone
had uh shared my video on the MAGA
prominent MAGA influencer saying Ro
impeach impeach Bondi. You and Massie
should impeach Bondi. So this is not
some Democratic issue. I mean think
about if you've got 5, 10, 15
Republicans actually leading the call
for an impeachment. And of course, to
watch that full interview and all of my
other interviews, please make sure to
subscribe to this channel. I'm going to
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It is 100% free and always will be, and
it's a great way to support my work. So,
that subscribe button is right here on
this screen. And I know that we often
talk about legal recourse and getting
the courts involved. But I want you to
appreciate the first point that Roana
made, that popular pressure is
important. The reality is that popular
pressure has been massively critical in
terms of getting those Republican
members of Congress to sign on to the
discharge petition, in terms of keeping
their names on the discharge petition
amid pressure from Trump, in terms of
then getting virtually every Republican
to join the Democrats and signing the
final version of that bill. That doesn't
happen without people across the
political spectrum continuing to
highlight this issue. It's why I very
often show clips from even Republicans
or right-wingers who are incensed over
the blatant cover up that's happening at
the hands of this administration.
We don't know what version of these
documents is going to come out because
we have Pam Bondi and Cash Patel and we
have all of these people, this goon
squad,
um, who lie about everything.
Now, we don't we don't know. We can't
trust any of them. They told us nothing
was going on. Trump does not want the
Epstein files to get out. And he's now
involved in an active cover up because
he came out with his Department of
Justice in July and said there are no
Epstein files. They don't exist. There's
no emails, no letters, no personal
effects. There's nothing left. He said
other than the actual child material
which would show indecent images or
photos or videos of the underage girls
being used. Well, we now know that was a
lie. So, if the Trump administration
wants to continue to engage in this
illegal cover up, they can try. But all
they're doing is galvanizing the entire
country against them and making it
abundantly clear that Donald Trump
himself is implicated in the exact
scheme that he promised to expose. And
while I don't exactly do predictions,
I'm willing to venture a guess that in
the fight between a pedophiles versus
the rest of us, the rest of us are going
to win in the end, very much to Trump's
dismay.
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Top DOJ official PANICS on air after getting CAUGHT deleting Epstein files
Brian Tyler Cohen
Dec 21, 2025

BREAKING #news - Deputy attorney general confronted on deleting Trump photo in Epstein files



Transcript

Mr. Blanche, I want to follow up with you
on what you just said. You were
referencing the 15 files released
Friday. They disappeared from DOJ's uh
website uh yesterday uh including this
photo of what looks like a desk with a
drawer open containing photos of Donald
Trump. Just to be very clear, to put a
fine point on it, why were these files
taken down? You're saying it was at the
direction of a judge.
Well, you you can see in that photo
there's photographs of women. And so we
learned after releasing that photograph
that there were concerns about those
about th those women and the fact that
we had put that photo up. So we pulled
that photo down. It has nothing to do
with President Trump. There are dozens
of photos of President Trump already
released to the public seeing him with
Mr. Epstein. He has said that in the 90s
and early 2000s he socialized with him.
So, the absurdity of us pulling down a
photo, a single photo of because
President Trump was in it is laughable.
And the fact that everybody's trying to
act like that's the case is a reflection
of of their true motivation. But, but
the reality is anybody, any victim, any
victim's lawyers, any victim rights
group can reach out to us and say, "Hey,
Department of Justice, there's there's a
document, there's a photo, there's
something within the Epstein files that
identifies me." and we will then of
course pull that off and and investigate
it.
Are you saying that one or more of the
women in one of the photos or or several
of the photos is a victim or a survivor
of Jeffrey Epstein and that's why you
took the those files down and will they
be put back up?
No, that's not that's not what I'm
saying. We of course if we knew that if
we had uh if we believed that that
photograph contained a a survivor um we
wouldn't have have put it up in the
first place without redacting the the
faces. But notwithstanding what we
believe, we don't have perfect
information. And so when when we hear
from victim's rights groups about this
type of photograph, we pull it down and
investigate. We're still investigating
that photo. The photo will go back up.
Um and the only question is whether
there will be redactions on the photo.
And of course, if there are survivors in
in any of the photos, we will redact
them um as Congress expects us to do, as
President Trump expects us to do, and as
the attorney general and director Patel
have directed the department to do.
That was the deputy attorney general,
who I should add is also Trump's former
personal criminal defense attorney, Todd
Blanch, offering up a lot of words to
avoid simply saying, "We got caught
messing with the files to protect
Trump." I want to focus on one phrase
that he used in particular.
The absurdity of us pulling down a
photo, a single photo of because
President Trump was in it is laughable.
And the fact that everybody's trying to
act like that's the case is a reflection
of of their true motivation. Ah, yes.
It's apparently laughable that the DOJ
would pull down even a single photo to
protect Donald Trump. How could we all
be so absurd to think that this Justice
Department would do anything to help the
guy who they all personally work for?
The same DOJ that's waited 11 months to
release a single file. The same DOJ that
put a thousand FBI agents on the task of
redacting Trump's name. The same DOJ
that promised the files would be
released back in February from when they
were apparently sitting on Pam Bondi's
desk. Yes, how could we all be so
foolish to think that their priority
would be helping Donald Trump? I mean,
I'm sorry, but who does Todd Blanch
think that he's fooling here? Honestly,
who is this for? Literally everyone
knows that this government is solely
focused on running a cover up for Trump.
I mean, hell, they literally moved
Epstein's co-conspirator, Gain Maxwell,
to an entirely different prison because
she wouldn't rat out Trump. Even a bunch
of former Trump acolytes and Trump
voters have turned on him as the result
of this very issue. We don't know what
version of these documents is going to
come out because we have Pam Bondi and
Cash Patel and we have all of these
people, this goon squad,
um, who lie about everything.
Now, we don't we don't know. We can't
trust any of them. They told us nothing
was going on. Trump does not want the
Epstein files to get out. and he's now
involved in an active cover up because
he came out with his Department of
Justice in July and said there are no
Epstein files. They don't exist. There's
no emails, no letters, no personal
effects. There's nothing left. He said
other than the actual child material
which would show indecent images or
photos or videos of the underage girls
being used. Well, we now know that was a
lie. So again, virtually the only thing
that unites the left and right is an
understanding that Donald Trump and his
administration are engaged in a cover up
because he is implicated in the files
and whatever is in there is clearly bad
enough that it's worth enduring such a
monumental hit to their credibility and
reputation on a daily basis. Another
point that I think is worth highlighting
here is based on this moment. It is
nothing to do with President Trump.
There are dozens of photos of President
Trump already released to the public
seeing him with Mr. Epstein.
That of course this DOJ wouldn't try to
help Donald Trump because there are
already dozens of photos released to the
public. Only small problem with that
logic. Literally none of them were
released by Trump's government. They
were all released by the Epstein estate
and the Democrats on the House oversight
committee. They were released despite
the best efforts by this White House. So
when Todd Blanch tries to claim that
Trump's pictures with Epstein are
already out there and so clearly this
administration has nothing to hide, he's
being purposefully obtuse. All of that
exposure has been in spite of this
administration, not because of it. At
this point, it's clear that this
administration is doing more harm than
good with these desperate attempts at
PR. If this White House was as committed
to transparency as people like Todd
Blanch claim on national TV, you know
what they would be doing? Releasing the
files in accordance with the law.
Period. not showing up and giving
excuses on Face the Nation, not posting
on Twitter, they would be following the
law, the same law that they have known
about for the last month. And for those
who say, "Ah, well, this stuff takes
time. There are hundreds of thousands of
documents to comb through." Pam Bondi
told us in February that they would be
released. They have had 10 months. So
maybe instead of spending all that time
building ballrooms and buying Gulf
Stream jets and adorning the Oval Office
in gold and hosting crypto dinners and
retrofitting Trump's new personal plane,
they might have actually been delivering
on the transparency that was promised on
the campaign trail by people like Dan
Bonino and Cash Patel and Alina Haba and
JD Vance. But it's clear now that that
was never their intention. That was just
something they told the rubes in their
base to get their votes. And now that
they've got power, now that they've got
what they need from their voters,
they're solely focused on perpetuating
the exact protectionism racket for
pedophiles that they once condemned. You
all thought you were voting to drain the
swamp. And yet, this is the swampiest
administration of all. These people are
not going to expose pedophiles. They're
going to the ends of the earth to
protect them. So again, if Todd Blanch
wants to be taken seriously, how about
fewer TV hits and more releasing the
files? And yes, that even includes the
ones with dear leader Donald Trump.
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New Epstein files accidentally leaked and it's bad for Trump...
Keith Edwards
Dec 22, 2025

Check out more reporting on this here: • they accidentally leaked new epstein files...

Keith Edwards discusses the latest Epstein files that were accidentally leaked by the Justice Department, which include flight logs from Epstein’s private planes showing Trump’s travel and list previously unreported names tied to Epstein’s network. He explains the files briefly exposed details of flights and about 10 new co-conspirators or contacts not widely reported before.



Transcript

All
right, we have some breaking news and I
just want to say we are in a breaking
news environment. So what I'm about to
tell you may actually change within the
next hour, 2 hours, 10 hours as we learn
more. But what has happened is that more
Epstein files were uploaded to the
Department of Justice website and they
accidentally leaked before they were
supposed to and before these got cleaned
up.

So, there are some emails that say
that Donald Trump rode on Jeffrey
Epstein's plane, more than previously
reported. We have emails that talk about
10 co-conspirators
that I'm going to bring you through. And
what this all really shows to us is that
remember this is when was this? This was
in July of this past year. The
Department of Justice told us that we
did not find or we did not uncover
evidence that could predicate an
investigation against uncharged third
parties. This was after a systematic
review that reveal revealed no
incriminating quote client list. Well,
we have emails that say the complete
opposite. The Department of Justice has
accidentally leaked. And I also want to
show you too that remember that Todd
Blanche just on Sunday, he really
himself over here. Todd Blanch on Sunday
was asked about the redactions and if
they hid any elites
willfully. The Epstein Files
Transparency Act prohibits redactions,
quote, on the basis of embarrassment,
reputational harm, or political
sensitivity. Has anything been redacted
on that basis?
Absolutely, positively not.

And okay, well, we have evidence here that
says that's actually not true. That the
Department of Justice is hiding crimes
that they said didn't exist. and they're
redacting people that shouldn't be.
Remember what she said? They're only
supposed to be redacting victims. So,
here we have Blank does not need to head
out. We made contact with Blank last
night in New York. Contact me with
Blank. Blank Blank. Attempts were made
to blank and Brunell. Blank is confirmed
to live in New York, but was far away
for the holiday weekend. We do not have
a good address for blank, but attempt
was made at a residence in New York.
Attempts to Maxwell are being made in
Boston today. Blank will be approached
in Florida and Blank in New York, but
have haven't as of yet. I do not know
about Ohio contacting Wexner.

And Wexner
is a billionaire that we've learned now
that is connected to all of this. We
also have this here.
Now, it says here, "Good morning." And
the subject is about uh 10
co-conspirators. Good morning.
Requesting an update on 10
co-conspirators
by close of business today.

And we're
this is what we learned about 10
co-conspirators. Of the 10
co-conspirators,
three have been located in Florida and
served GJ subpoenas. One in Boston, one
in New York City, and one in Connecticut
were located and served. Four of the 10
are outstanding with attempts having
been made. One is a wealthy businessman
in Ohio, which is what I just showed you
before, where they talked about, I do
not know about Ohio, and contacting
Wexner. A lead is being sent to CV. The
remaining three are currently out of
pocket. The team, eight essays, and TFOs
are flying out tonight, tomorrow, to
various locations in Florida to
interview approximately 25 victims.
Okay. And then it says here also
Epstein's bail argument is due to the
judge on Thursday. The actual bail bail
hearing will be made on Monday.

So we have been told this whole time that
Jeffrey Epstein acted alone, that the
only person who worked with him was Ghislaine
Maxwell. But now we're learning through
this leaked document that there are 10
other people, many of whom are wealthy
and well-connected, who were taking part
in these crimes, and the government is
willingly covering it up. The government
is willingly covering it up.

We also have here that we're learning
that I mean this is this is what you get I
guess when you have someone like Trump
being unable to do the bare minimum. But
a lot of these redactions you can
actually unredact because they didn't
redact them correctly.

I was just able
to recover some of the redactions to
Trump's Epstein files and you won't
believe what I just found. The Trump DOJ
screwed up some of the redactions so bad
that you can recover them. And I did so
simply by copying and pasting the text.
When I did, this is what was there. This
is 100% proof that Trump tried to cover
up the existence of other participants
in Epstein's crimes. It says right here
that they paid large sums of money to
participant witnesses in order to keep
them quiet, as well as their attorneys
fees. This means that Trump tried to
hide the fact that there's other
participants and other attorneys who
know about it as well as those who
helped Epstein release damaging stories
and destroy evidence.
So, this is in the red reaction.

Defendants also attempted to conceal
their criminal sex trafficking and abusive
conduct by paying large sums of money to
participant witnesses, including by
paying for their attorneys fees and case
costs and litigation related. Epstein
also threatened harm to victims and
helped release damaging stories about
them to damage their credibility when
they try to go public. Epstein also
instructed one or more Epstein
enterprise participant witnesses to
destroy evidence relevant to ongoing
court proceedings involving defendants
criminal sex trafficking and abuse
conduct. All of that stuff here is this,
and it was redacted.

Does that sound to you like what Todd Blanche said
just yesterday? This is yesterday.
The Epstein Files Transparency Act
prohibits redactions, quote, on the
basis of embarrassment, reputational
harm, or political sensitivity.

Has anything been redacted on that?
Absolutely, positively not
a lie. That was a lie. And then of
course now we have this that literally
just came out moments ago
that says reping flight records. This is
Wednesday, January 8th, 2020.
For your situational awareness, wanted
to let you know that the flight records
we received yesterday reflect that
Donald Trump traveled on Epstein's
private jet many more times than
previously has been reported or that we
were aware of, including during the
period we would expect to charge in a
Maxwell case. In particular, he is
listed as a passenger on at least eight
flights between 1993 and 1996,
including at least four flights on which
Maxwell was also present. He is listed as
having traveled with, among others, and
at various times Marla Maples, his
daughter Tiffany, and his son Eric. On
one flight in 1993, he and
Epstein are the only two listed
passengers. On another, the only three
passengers are Epstein, Trump, and then
20-year-old Blank. On two other flights,
two of the passengers, respectively,
were women who would be possible
witnesses in a Maxwell case.

We've just finished reviewing the full records,
more than 800 pages, a very small
script, and didn't want any of this to
be a surprise down the road. Blank,
assistant US attorney, Southern District
of New York. Blank.

So, this is not going to go away. This
is not going to go away. There are 10
co-conspirators that the government is
aware of. Donald Trump
is more connected to to Epstein than
we even previously knew. He has taken
Epstein's flight as it says here more
than previously reported.

And do you think that that's all there
is to this?
No, of course not. Of course not. This
is truly the biggest cover up in
American history happening right before
our eyes. It's the biggest cover up in
American history, and it's happening
right out in the open. And it's being
done by fools who are leaking
information that they're meeting that
they're trying to hide.

So, as I said,
this is a developing story. It's
literally breaking right now. I wanted
to bring it to you as we have it. There
is a video going around that's viral of
Epstein
in a jail cell assault, but it's not
real. And so I just want to point that
out to you that is not real. All of this
I'm showing you right here, very real.

And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
We're going to keep going through these
documents. I'll bring you what we find,
what others find. And I'm sure there
will be there going to be many more
responses to this from the government,
from Pam Bondi, Donald Trump, and
I'll bring you all that as we get it.
But yeah, this is not a good day for
Trump.

Trump Accused of R*pe In Latest Epstein Files Released
David Schuster
Rebel HQ
Dec 23, 2025 #News #Politics #DavidShuster

Newly released government documents tied to Jeffrey Epstein are drawing renewed scrutiny and raising fresh questions about powerful figures mentioned in the files. The latest disclosures are already fueling backlash and intensifying demands for accountability. David Shuster breaks it down on Rebel HQ.



Transcript

Hello everybody, David Schuster here.
One of the latest Epstein documents
released by the Department of Justice
accuses Donald Trump of rape. Headline,
unnamed victim alleges Trump raped her.
Quote, among the newly released
materials is an FBI case file FA00020518
dated October 2020 that contains an
allegation of rape involving Trump. The
document does not identify the source of
the allegation as names and other
identifying details have been redacted.
The DOJ website does not make this
document very easy to find. You can see
on how page 61, the PDF files go from
FA00000020517
to FA00000020520.
But if you look in 20517, you will find
the document. Here's more reporting on
20518. Mediite rape claim. An FBI case
file from late 2020 includes a rape
accusation against the president. A limo
driver said he overheard a very
concerning phone call Trump had in 1995
where Trump kept saying the name
Jeffrey. The limo driver, who has his
name redacted, said Trump made
references to abusing some girl. He
later discussed driving Trump with a
woman in 1999. The unnamed limo driver
said, "Donald J. Trump has raped me
along with Jeffrey Epstein." The man
said the woman told him. The limo driver
said he urged the woman to tell the
police, but she said she can't because
they will kill me. The woman was later
found with her head blown off in
Oklahoma. To be fair, the limo driver's
account of hearing from a woman that
Trump raped the woman, well, that would
be considered hearsay in a court of law
and not allowed in as evidence. However,
the accusation itself is incendiary in
the court of public opinion, and that
may explain why the Department of
Justice has made it so challenging to
find. The DOJ also posted this note on
X, saying, "Some of these documents
contain untrue and sensationalist claims
made against President Trump that were
submitted to the FBI right before the
2020 election. To be clear, the claims
are unfounded and false. But how does
the Trump administration's justice
department know these claims are false
if they were never pursued or
investigated?
That's been the key issue in the Epstein
case. Many of the clients and
accompllices never faced any legal
repercussions or investigations.
There are other documents in the Epstein
files just released that are also
generating breaking news. The Justice
Department released a new batch of
documents in the Jeffrey Epstein
investigation, including chilling new
evidence that some viewers may find
disturbing. This is a jailhouse letter
apparently written by a Jeffrey Epste.
This is Jay Epstein. And it was sent to
another infamous sex offender. That
would be Larry Nasser. The letter
appears to include a reference to
President Trump.
The Epstein letter says, "Dear Ellen, as
you know by now, I have taken the short
route home. Good luck. We shared one
thing, our love and caring for young
ladies at the hope they'd reach their
full potential. Our president shares our
love of young new girls. When a young
beauty walked by, he loved to grab
snatch whereas we ended up snatching
grub in the mesh halls of the system.
Life is unfair. Yours, Jay Epstein. On
CNN, an Epstein survivor reacted and
spoke specifically about Donald Trump. I
think it's very apparent in that
specific letter that was just publicized
from the Epstein files. I think it's
very apparent that there are a group of
men that enjoy the company of young
women and children. And I think that
letter emphasizes that he knew what was
going on. And that enough that
complicity is enough for me to know you
have no business being in the position
of power. But as other documents
indicated, it's not just that Donald
Trump knew about Epstein's interest in
young women. The documents indicate
Trump himself enjoyed the young women.
And according to at least one person the
FBI interviewed, Donald Trump raped a
woman. Trump has denied any wrongdoing
in the Epstein case. But Trump has also
denied traveling on Epstein's plane more
than once or twice. Headline, many more
Epstein flights. An early 2020 email in
the documents claimed Trump traveled on
Epstein's private plane many more times
than previously has been reported. Those
flights include eight that happened
between 1993 and 1996, according to the
email, which has had the name of the
sender and receiver redacted. If Donald
Trump is privately infuriated over the
Epstein files, well, he isn't showing
much anger in public. Instead, Trump has
been subdued and matterof fact when
asked about his reaction.
This whole thing is with Epstein is a
way of trying to deflect from the
tremendous success that the Republican
party has. Like for instance, today
we're building the biggest ships in the
world, most powerful ships in the world,
and they're asking me questions about
Jeffrey Epstein. I thought that was
finished. Oh, it's not finished, Donald,
because now we have seen documents
accusing you of rape. Also, the
Department of Justice has only released
about 15% of all the Epstein files in
its possession. And so far, the DOJ has
not released any of the Epstein
videotapes. Witnesses say that Epstein
recorded nearly everything and everybody
in his mansions, and documents released
so far confirm that Epstein did have an
elaborate surveillance and recording
system. So, the release of Trump Epstein
evidence has just begun. fact that he is
uh named in multiple ways. What occurs
to me in reading, you know, just trying
to go through the batch of documents
that's been released, Chris, is that
everybody that was in Epstein's orbit,
including the president, knew what
Epstein was doing. There are references
by one person that we think was the
former Duke of York uh to inappropriate
guests, women. So everything in these
files seems to indicate that number one,
Trump was deeply engaged with Epstein
and that he knew what was going on. And
the fact that their relationship was
built, according to the New York Times
report, on uh a a desire for young women
uh really focused around that whole um
aspect of of what Epstein was about, I
think is is very important. I will also
note that there when you initially tried
to search the files for Trump, nothing
showed up. If you searched for Trump
with a space, then there were multiple
items that showed up. So clearly that to
me also raises questions of did the DOJ
try to block the search for just the
word Trump, but then they forgot to
block the search for the word Trump with
a space after it. I don't know how long
that's going to stay live on the DOJ
site, frankly, now that it's been
pointed out.
By all accounts, Donald Trump and
Jeffrey Epstein were the best of
friends. They shared everything. And
that itself may help explain why the
Department of Justice has been trying to
black out most Trump mentions,
publicizing the files haphazardly, and
refusing so far to follow the law's
requirement to release everything,
including, fair or not, accusations that
Donald Trump raped a woman.
By the way, Fox Business News recently
admitted that Donald Trump is sinking
the US labor market.
4.6 6 is probably the number moving the
needle right now.
This is the highest unemployment since
September of 2021.
You've got the October numbers as well.
We got October non-farm payrolls uh
data. We saw a loss of 105,000
jobs non-farm for the month of October.
Check out that video at the link below.
It generated a lot of comments on
YouTube. One of the most popular from my
travelers who wrote, "How Trump thinks
that pissing in other nations coffee
cups is going to get them to invest in
America is a mystery." I hear you. I
look forward to reading your comments
about the latest Trump mentions in the
Epstein files, including an allegation
that Donald Trump raped a woman.
I'm David Schustster. Thanks for joining
us.

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https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/D ... 020517.pdf

UNCLASSIFIED

FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

Intake

Date: 10/27/2020

Case ID #: 50D-NY-3027571 (U) EPSTEIN, JEFFREY; CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING

Drafted By: [DELETE]

Date/Time Received: 10/27/2020 03:20 PM EDT

Details:

On 10/27/2020, at 3:20 p.m. Eastern. Time, [DELETE], date of birth [DELETE], cellular telephone number [DELETE],called the FBI National Threat Operations Center (NTOC) Unit, to report potential information related to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

[DELETE] provided the following information:

[DELETE] reported around 1997, he made contact with [DELETE], birth [DELETE], whom he had known from 6 or 7 years prior as they had a son together. [DELETE] and [DELETE] ended up dating, as [DELETE] explained she was having money issues and problems with her daughters. [DELETE] noted they were friends from before. During the contact in 1997, [DELETE] asked [DELETE] how to spell "Ghislaine" numerous times, as [DELETE] noted she had taken her daughters up to see one of the "supposed father's" who lived in Niagara Falls, NY recently.

[DELETE] reported she had met a lady who invited her daughters [DELETE] [DELETE], date of birth [DELETE], and [DELETE], date of birth [DELETE] to a fancy hotel and met Donald Trump and some of his friends in 1997. [DELETE] continued asking [DELETE] how to spell "Ghislaine" implying Ghislaine had given her money and would give her additional money if needed.

On Christmas Eve of 1999, or the day prior, [DELETE] was over visiting his son, who he had with [DELETE] years prior. [DELETE] began talking to [DELETE], as she seemed to be acting strange and asked [DELETE] if he needed a ride home. [DELETE] asked [DELETE] about his time driving a limousine for two years in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. During [DELETE] time as a driver, he had met Donald Trump. [DELETE] noted he picked the President up in 1995 and took him to the DFW Airport. [DELETE] reported some of things President Trump had spoken about during the ride while on his cell phone were very concerning. [DELETE] reported he was "a few seconds from pulling the limousine over on the median and within a few seconds of pulling him out of the car and hurting him due to some of things he was saying" as caller choose not to. [DELETE] noted Trump continuously stated the name "Jeffrey" while on the phone, and made references to "abusing some girl." [DELETE] was unsure who he was talking to nor who he was referencing. As [DELETE] talked about his time meeting Donald Trump, immediately [DELETE] demeanor went "stone cold" as [DELETE] stated "he raped me." [DELETE] said "what" as [DELETE] replied "Donald J. Trump had raped her along with Jeffrey Epstein." [DELETE] noted some girl with a funny name "took me into a fancy hotel or building, that's how it happened."

[DELETE] advised [DELETE] to call the police regarding the incident as [DELETE] stated "I can't they will kill me." On Christmas Day, [DELETE] contacted [DELETE] stated she had in fact called the police about what they had talked about. [DELETE] told [DELETE] she had "done good." [DELETE] did not hear from [DELETE] or [DELETE] until 01/10/2000.

[DELETE] reached out to [DELETE] stating [DELETE] was dead and noted she was found with her head "blown off" in Kiefer, OK. Officers on the scene and [DELETE] stated there was no way it was a suicide. Corner stated it was a suicide. [DELETE] later stated [DELETE] committed suicide because [DELETE] had gotten cocaine from a Mexican drug cartel. [DELETE] feels the murder is a cover for Ghislaine.

The last contact with [DELETE] was after [DELETE] posted this information on Facebook a couple of weeks prior. [DELETE] called [DELETE] yelling that he had put the family in danger. [DELETE] explained [DELETE] had a third daughter named [DELETE], date of birth [DELETE].

Note: During [DELETE] report he mentioned John Doe No.2 was actually John W Nichols, date of birth [DELETE], [DELETE] who tried to originally set [DELETE] up for the bombing in Oklahoma City. Nichols worked security for Bill and Hillary Clinton as [DELETE] ate at a place where Nichols worked security at the door. Hillary walked up to [DELETE] drunk and begin yelling as they asked [DELETE] to leave and fired Nichols, which led Nichols to attempt to set up [DELETE] for the bombing.

Trump PANICS As Secret Epstein File RESURFACES
Harry Sisson
Dec 26, 2025 The Harry Sisson Show

Harry Sisson reacts to Trump's latest statement on the Epstein files as explosive allegations against him resurface.



Transcript

All right, folks. It's a new day, which
means a new unhinged statement from
Donald Trump about the Epstein story. It
is so clear to me, and I think you at
home as well, that he is in full-blown
panic mode right now. He is spiraling
and he doesn't know what to do. And I
have a theory as to why he posted this
statement at this time, which we will
talk about in just a moment, but it has
to do with some explosive allegations
contained in the Epstein files. You've
probably seen them by now, but I want to
go over them just one more time. So,
we're going to read the statement. We'll
talk about it a little bit, look at some
documents. Before I do any of that, make
sure to subscribe down below, drop a
like on the video, comment. Uh, it goes
an incredibly long way. I want to hear
what you have to say about the matter.
Without further ado, let's just go back
to yesterday briefly where it kind of
all kicked off these recent statements.
Donald Trump said, "Merry Christmas to
all, including the many sleeves bags who
loved Epstein, gave him bundles of
money, went to his island, attended his
parties, and thought he was the greatest
guy on earth." So, Donald Trump is
wishing a merry Christmas to himself
right there. He just described himself.
He partied with Epstein. They uh you
know, they hung out. He they Trump
thought he was the greatest guy on earth
and things like that. But he added only
to drop him like a dog when things got
too hot. Falsely claimed they had
nothing to do with him. I mean,
seriously, he's describing himself
still. I can't get over it. Didn't know
him. Said he was a disgusting person.
And then, of course, blame Donald J.
Trump, who was actually the only one who
did drop him long before it became
fashionable. So talking about himself in
the third person while projecting
simultaneously that takes some skill as
in being a really skilled narcissist.
And then he kept rambling and saying
that it's actually the Democrats are in
the files yada yada the usual stuff from
Donald Trump. That brings us to the
statement today where it's all over the
place. He said now 1 million more pages
on Epstein are found referencing the uh
Southern District of New York alerting
the FBI to a million more documents. And
it's just weird that Pam Bondi and the
Department of Justice apparently found
these documents all of a sudden. Just
kind of strange. But anyway, DOJ is
being forced to spend all of its time on
this Democrat inspired hoax, calling it
a hoax again. When when do they say no
more and work on election fraud, etc. So
now he's advocating for them to break
the law. The Dems are the ones who
worked with Epstein, not the
Republicans. Release all of their names,
embarrass them, and get back to helping
our country. So, Donald Trump is saying,
"Stop working on the Epstein files that
embarrass me, that contain my name, but
you should release all the Democrats
names, embarrass them, and then get back
to uh business as usual at the
Department of Justice." Okay, so Trump
is treating this as like a political
game, an opportunity to win an argument.
It's just gross given the fact that
there are real victims behind what
Epstein did and now he's calling it a
hoax and he's saying he wants to
embarrass Democrats, but not him.
Anyway, the radical left doesn't want
people talking about Trump and
Republican success. Only a long ago dead
Jeffrey Epstein, just another witch
hunt. Yeah, this statement's just all
over the place. It's completely
unhinged. If one of your family members
said this on Facebook, you'd try to host
an intervention. But it's not a family
member. It's not your crazy uncle who
wears tin foil hats. It's the president
of the United States saying this. So,
he's simultaneously asking the
Department of Justice to break the law,
but also asking them to only release
documents that implicate Democrats. If
this doesn't spell panicked, I don't
know what does. And again, I just want
to make this point once more, which is
there are real victims who are watching
this take place. There are victims who
want transparency. They want the
documents out there. They want these
wealthy men, including Donald Trump, if
applicable, to be exposed. And Trump is
treating it like a political game, an
opportunity to expose his opponents. And
the Democrats are saying, "Hey, if there
are Democrats in the files, release
them. I don't care. I do not care. I
don't care what your political ideology
is. If you're in if you're in the files,
release them. Couldn't care less." And
that of course includes Donald Trump.
But the Republicans view this as a
political game. Only release the
Democrats, not the Republicans. But as I
said, I have a feeling as to why he's
releasing this statement now. And it's
because the renewed attention or the
greater focus that documents like this
one have gotten in the past couple of
days. What you're looking at is an FBI
tip that was submitted by somebody in
2020 alleging very serious allegations
against Donald Trump. And this document
in particular along with another one we
are going to look at in just a moment
has gotten a lot of attention because
it's one of the most explosive
allegations against Donald Trump. Now
what I will say is none of what we're
about to read is proven. It hasn't been
proven in court. There's nothing like
that. But this is just an allegation
against Donald Trump through an FBI tip.
So, this is coming from a person who
says, "I previously provided a tip about
3 weeks ago, maybe four weeks ago, under
an alias I have for myself. Blank,
blank, blank. All the other details of
the previous tip match all the
information given in today's tip, except
I'm giving my real name. A detective
from NYPD FBI sex trafficking task force
called me a couple of weeks ago from a
212 area code number. I talked to him
for about 20 or 30 minutes about me
being sex trafficked by my uncle and
Jeffrey Epstein in 1984 while I was 13
and pregnant. I told him some other
important information about other
high-profile individuals involved in the
trafficking and the murder and
disposable and disposal of my newborn
daughter because I gave birth to her
while in the middle of this ordeal. I
can't remember the detective's name nor
do I have a number. Where can I contact
him? I would like to have his name and
contact information. And they go on and
they're alleging that of course Epstein
was part of the crime, but also Donald
Trump. You can see it down here. Uh,
additional info again, just trying to
find out the NYPD detective on the
trafficking task force that called me a
couple of weeks ago and spoke to me
about some of these issues. How is
contact known? He participated regularly
in paying money to force me to blank
blank blank, we can't read it, with him
and he was present when my uncle
disposed of the newborn baby. This is an
explosive allegation. and it's involved
in Lake Michigan where apparently this
disposal took place and Donald Trump
does interestingly have some weird
connections to Lake Michigan. But as I
mentioned, of course, none of this is
proven. But my question is,
why aren't there any documents in the
Epstein files referencing a follow-up?
Like, where are the documents
referencing them saying this this case
is closed, this tip had no validity,
which great, if they investigated it, no
problem. Sure. But where is that
documentation? Where is the
documentation that they actually
investigated it? I mean, they took it
down. It got a number. You know, this is
this is in the files. It got a case
number. So, where's the followup? And
that in addition to this case where this
is an explosive one, um about Donald
Trump in the back of a a car, a
limousine driver was taking him to the
airport and he was on the phone and he
met Donald Trump. Immediately, the
demeanor went stone cold. Blank as
stated, blank, he assaulted me. He said,
"What?" Blank replied, "Donald J. Trump
had raped me along with Epstein noted
some girl with a funny name took me into
a f a fancy hotel or building. That's
how it happened. Blank advised Blank to
call the police regarding the incident
as they stated, "I can't. They will kill
me." On Christmas Day, Blank contacted
Blank. I wish there were more
information. It's hard to say Blank all
the time, but um we learned later that
Blank reached out to Blank stating Blank
was dead and noted she was found with
her head blown off in Oklahoma. What's
interesting about this story in
particular is that on January 10th,
2000, a 19-year-old girl named Dusty was
found dead by a gunshot wound in the
same place in Oklahoma. That's the same
day a 2020 FBI complaint alleged that
Trump assaulted this victim that was
found with her head blown off. So weird.
Again, it's an allegation. We don't know
if it's true. I'm not sitting here
saying it's true. I'm not sitting here
trying to rile you up and say, "Oh my
god, Donald Trump did these things."
These are all just allegations. We do
not know for sure. But these are the
documents included in the Epstein files
that are getting renewed attention such
as this documents being being dug up.
People finding records that might
corroborate such an allegation. And the
concerning part for me is that there are
no documents in the Epstein files that
reference an investigation being closed.
Reference an investigation at all to
begin with. It just was a tip that was
submitted. This story especially has
some corroboration, of course, just
some. It doesn't prove it beyond a
reasonable doubt, but some
corroboration. And there's no documents
in the FBI Epstein files that say they
looked into it. Just nothing. So, I
think it's weird, but I think that
renewed attention on these explosive
allegations is why Donald Trump has been
spiraling in the past couple of days.
But you can let me know if you disagree.
You can let me know what you think about
these documents. If you think there's
any amount of truth or that there's no
amount of truth, I'm excited to hear
from you. Make sure to subscribe down
below. Drop a like on the video.
comment. Let me know what you think
about this story. Once again, happy
holidays, merry Christmas, whatever you
celebrate. I'm excited to go into the
new year with you folks.

NEW Epstein Files EXPOSE Erika Kirk’s MOTHER │ Romania Rabbit Hole Just Got Deeper…Celebrity Gossip
Celebrity Gossip Files
Dec 26, 2025

54/NEW Epstein Files EXPOSE Erika Kirk’s MOTHER │ Romania Rabbit Hole Just Got Deeper…Celebrity Gossip



Transcript

I was living in China and doing a lot of
work with um the victims from traffic
work with a orphanage in Romania.
Different news outlets trying to get
their own information especially with
the Epstein stuff that's going
say Erica Kirk's own mother Lorie Frans
allegedly sits on Super Feed's board.
The odds of that coincidence
astronomical.
Had a very good relationship. My mom and
Charlie were best friends. We joked
around that.
Oh, I know. We joked around that he was
the favorite child.
The American people deserve to have
every Epstein file released with no
redactions whatsoever. Period. I'm I'm
pushing for that both privately and
publicly, just so you know.
Recently, shocking new revelations about
Erica's past have come to light. These
revelations allegedly expose a
connection between her mother, Lorie
France, and Epstein through the Romanian
Angels Ministry organization that Erica
ran. Notably, Romania also appears in
recently leaked Epstein documents.
According to what's circulating, a fund
allegedly controlled by Epstein made
transfers to a bank account in Romania.
Currently, we can't pinpoint exactly
where the money went as the recipient's
identity has been concealed. However,
the online community has begun its own
investigation. And from there, a series
of seemingly unusual connections are
emerging, all suspected to be linked to
Romanian angels. The deeper we dig, the
more unanswered questions arise, and the
feeling that something was still left
unsaid became increasingly clear.
Currently, only Erica is under
investigation regarding her connections
to Romania. However, recent leaked
images have raised another question. Her
mother, Lorie, may be the mastermind
behind the whole affair. This leads to a
crucial question. Who is Lorie Fron
really? And how deep is the connection
between Epstein and Romania?
A week? How long? How many miles do you
think you've driven in this home?
721 miles
this week. That's unbelievable.
Before delving into Erica's mother's
role, we need to pause to analyze the
Epstein Romania connection, as this
detail makes the entire story
surrounding the so-called Romanian
angels far darker and more suspicious
than what has been publicly described.
When a series of court documents related
to Epstein were recently released, many
began scrutinizing financial records.
And from there, a notable clue emerged.
A flow of money directly to Romania.
According to US court records, in a
civil lawsuit between JP Morgan Chase
and Epstein, a transfer of over 30,000
was recorded as being sent to a bank
account at Transennylvania Bank located
in Isish, Romania. Currently, the
identity of the account holder remains
undisclosed. However, the bank name and
location are clearly stated in the
records, and this information can be
fully verified through Romanian media
reports, which have directly reported on
court documents from the United States.
What makes this transaction impossible
to consider coincidental is the origin
of the money. The funds are believed to
be linked to a fund controlled by
Epstein himself, often referred to as
the COQ fund. And this is not the only
time Romania has appeared in documents
related to Epstein. The records also
show that a large proportion of those
involved in Epstein's cases originated
from Eastern Europe with Romania listed
alongside countries such as Albania,
Muldova, Bulgaria, Russia, Bellarus, and
Ukraine. It's important to remember with
Epstein, any detail that appears in
official records is rarely as simple as
it seems on the surface. Often, it's
just the starting point, and there are
always many layers of mystery yet to be
revealed. These documents are just the
tip of the iceberg. The important thing
is what hasn't been said yet. Please
comment with your opinion and subscribe
to the channel so you don't miss the
next parts. And when it comes to what
lies beneath the surface, one cannot
ignore Erica's mother, Lorie France, and
her career path. Lori is known as a
technology entrepreneur with decades of
experience in the business world. She is
said to own and operate several
specialized companies and has built a
vast professional network, including
partners in the government and military
sectors. Throughout her career, Lorie
has founded several companies focused on
providing technology solutions and
expert consulting. For example, one of
her businesses, AZ Teach International,
publicly states that it undertakes
expert projects and value management
solutions for agencies under the United
States Department of Defense, the United
States Department of Energy, and related
contractors. Simply put, Lorie has a
long history of working closely with the
US government. This was even publicly
confirmed by Erica. In a twentling
interview, Erica stated that her family
moved to Arizona due to Lor's job, which
involved the United States Department of
Defense and the United States Department
of Homeland Security. These details,
when placed within the broader context
of the entire story, lead many to
wonder, was this purely career related,
or were there other layers of
information left undisclosed? Therefore,
she chose to move to Phoenix uh from
Ohio because there was more of a um an
opportunity for a female business owner
out here. Um especially from the
standpoint of she was getting involved
with u the government, so Homeland
Security and Department of Defense. And
so she had other business partners that
were out here that were already in that
industry. Um even one that was a mentor
of hers. So, it was it was really
convenient to be able to come all
together in one place to really have
that.
However, Lor's scope of activity was
believed to extend beyond domestic
projects. Some social media users
pointed out that Lorie's company GTE was
suspected of being involved in overseas
projects through a partner named Rathon.
And remember, RAON partnered with
Israel's Raphael to build the Iron Dome
missile defense system. At the very core
of that technology are advanced
semiconductors. the same kind of tech
Lor's companies claimed to work with.
And they were contracted with them
because in 2025, Donald Trump himself
pushed for building what he called a
gold dome over America, modeled directly
after Israel's Iron Dome. And it is here
that some began to hypothesize that this
could be another link, supposedly
connecting Erica's mother to Epstein in
a much larger picture than many had
previously considered. Notably, Charlie
also mentioned these issues just before
a major event occurred, raising even
more unanswered questions. And perhaps
the most important thing right now is
not to make assertions. Go talk. Let
people ask questions. Figure out what
the heck is going on. Was Jeffrey
Epstein an intelligence asset? Now, the
Israeli government has come out and
said, "Nope, he was not one of ours.
Under no means necessary." And so, was
he Saudi? Was he MI6? Was he CIA? We do
not know. And our audience is really
fired up about the story. We've been
covering it extensively.
Charlie is very passionate about this
issue. The deeper he digs, the more
convinced he is that there is a
large-scale coverup supposedly aimed at
protecting the interests of external
powers. Is that Epstein with his little
friend Galain and Galain's father,
Robert Maxwell, who was obviously a spy
of the Israeli intelligence agencies,
that there was something else going on
here. Epstein was not some sort of whiz
kid hedge fund manager. Epstein was
playing a part. Epstein was a larer.
Epstein was cast for a specific role and
he played it really well. But the story
doesn't end there. Charlie has also
publicly called for the release of all
records related to Epstein. In one of
his final debates at university, he made
it clear that he was pushing this demand
both privately and publicly. Not to draw
conclusions on behalf of anyone, but to
let the truth, if it exists, speak for
itself. We as the American people
deserve to have every Epstein file
released with no redactions whatsoever.
Period. We the American people ran on
transparency. We deserve to see the
entire client list. Every document the
government has regarding the Epstein
files, we the American people should
have on an easy to access website
immediately in a very very quick
fashion. I'm I'm pushing for that both
privately and publicly, just so you
know. Now, Erica Kirk declares that her
top priority as the new CEO of Turning
Point USA is to continue Charlie Kirk's
legacy. So, a reasonable question
arises. Why has she not mentioned the
Epstein files until now? This is clearly
an issue that Charlie was very concerned
about. So, why wasn't this legacy
continued? And notably, the same
question applies to Erica's mother.
Erica herself has repeatedly stated that
Charlie was her most beloved child.
Given Lorie's known extensive
connections with the government, many
believe she would choose to honor her
cherished son by supporting the release
of the entire Epstein dossier. exactly
what Charlie had wished for.
My mom and Charlie, they they were best
friends. My I would always say that
Charlie was her favorite child.
And so the question becomes even
clearer. Why didn't Erica and Lorie push
for the release of these documents
knowing for sure that Charlie had called
for it? And this is where the story
returns to the Romanian connection, a
piece of the puzzle that many believe
holds the answer to the unanswered
questions. Recent leaked images
allegedly show Lorie also involved in
Romanian angels projects, leading many
to suspect there is something unspoken
behind the scenes. It's worth
remembering that Erica was only 17 to 18
when she started her philanthropic work.
And Romanian Angels was one of the first
major international projects reportedly
supported by the US military. The fact
that it's difficult for a teenager to
run an entire program on her own
suggests many believe Lorie played a
guiding role, especially given her
direct connections to the military
through her companies. More notably, in
a Romanian Angels video, Erica thanks a
US military officer whose name appeared
in a 2010 Romanian newspaper article
concerning serious allegations at a US
military facility in Romania. Despite a
review process between the two sides,
the final outcome was never clearly
announced. These details have led many
to question, are there still unresolved
issues surrounding the Romanian Angels?
Remember the name Otto Busher, the
Colonel Erica thanked at the end of the
video about the Romanian Angels?
According to several Romanian news
reports, the translator who made
allegations of inappropriate activities
at a US military base claimed Busher was
involved. More notably, another article
raised suspicions that some data on the
translator's computer had been tampered
with, including messages allegedly
related to arranging services. While
there is no official conclusion, these
details are unsettling when pieced
together. Because when viewed
holistically, Epstein appears in records
related to Romania. Erica and her mother
have connections to the Romanian angels.
Lorie has deep connections to the
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Trump Employee LEAKS His Biggest Epstein Secret...
Harry Sisson
Dec 27, 2025 The Harry Sisson Show
Harry Sisson reacts to the major development in the Epstein case surrounding Donald Trump.

-- Trump Flies Epstein Air, aka the Lolita Express

Donald Trump boasted about meeting semi-naked teenagers in beauty pageants: Mr Trump said on Howard Stern’s radio show in 2005 that he could ‘get away’ with walking into the dressing room to ‘inspect’ beautiful women
by Rachael Revesz
Independent.co.uk
Wednesday 12 October 2016 15:02 BST

Donald Trump used to “stroll right in” to the dressing room of beauty pageants while the contestants - some of whom were teenagers - were naked or half-dressed, a former model has claimed.

Tasha Dixon was 18 when she competed in the Miss USA pageant, winning the state crown.

“Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half naked changing into our bikinis,” Ms Dixon told CBS.

“He just came strolling right in. There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Other girls were naked.”

She added that people who worked for Mr Trump “pressured” the women to “fawn over him, go walk up to him, talk to him, get his attention” while still not fully dressed.

Ms Dixon added the situation made them feel awkward and physically vulnerable.

Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant also said the Republican used to walk in. Some of the girls were as young as 15.

Former Miss Vermont Teen USA, Mariah Billado, told Buzzfeed: "I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, 'Oh my god, there's a man in here."

Three other girls chose to remain anonymous, but told the publication it was "creepy" and "shocking".

Mr Trump said on the Howard Stern radio show in 2005 that he was “allowed”, as the owner of the pageant, to go backstage while the contestants were getting dressed.

“You know they’re standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that.”

Ms Dixon told CBS she believed that Mr Trump owned the pageant for 19 years because he could “utilise his power around beautiful women” and there was no one above him to complain to.

When Ms Dixon competed in 2001, the theme was empowering women.

She said she had not listened to the radio show and her accusations were not politically motivated.

The revelations come as a leaked video from 2005 show the presidential nominee bragging about sexually assaulting women. He released an apology within hours but defended the remarks as “locker room talk”.

The remarks come in contrast to a statement from former Miss California, Carrie Prejean, who competed in the beauty pageant the same year as Ms Dixon.

“To paint Mr Trump as someone who would purposely walk into a women’s dressing room and ask women to come impress him is the most disgusting accusation so far,” she said.

Mr Trump used to own the Miss Universe, the Miss USA and Miss Teen USA pageants until last year.

-- Donald Trump boasted about meeting semi-naked teenagers in beauty pageants: Mr Trump said on Howard Stern’s radio show in 2005 that he could ‘get away’ with walking into the dressing room to ‘inspect’ beautiful women, by Rachael Revesz, Independent.co.uk, Wednesday 12 October 2016 15:02 BST[/size][/b]

A still from previously unseen footage of the 1991 Look of the Year finale

-- Teen models, powerful men and private dinners: when Trump hosted Look of the Year: In the early 90s, Donald Trump judged the world’s biggest modelling competition - since hit by allegations of abuse. This is how the people who were there remember it, by Lucy Osborne, Harry Davies and Stephanie Kirchgaessner, The Guardian, Sat 14 Mar 2020 02.00 EDT

Transcript

All right, folks. This is a very big
deal and it could be the thing that we
are all missing about the story
surrounding Donald Trump and Jeffrey
Epstein. Of course, we are all focused
on the files right now. Rightfully so.
There are some explosive allegations
against Donald Trump in them, but I
think it goes much deeper, something
that we really haven't explored yet.

The man on your screen right now, his name
is Steve, and he published a bombshell
video just the other day saying how he
used to be a judge for the beauty
pageants Donald Trump used to run,
MissUSA, Miss Teen USA. And he says the
media is missing the mark. We are
missing the mark. People need to look at
these beauty pageantss deeper for
potential crimes that Donald Trump might
have committed himself, might have
committed with Epstein. And he's blowing
the whistle essentially. So, we're going
to look at this video and hear what he
has to say. But, I also did a deep
dive in preparation for this to see more
about Donald Trump's beauty pageant
history. And it gets worse. We're going
to talk about all of it in just a
moment. Before I do any of that, make
sure to subscribe down below, drop a
like on the video, comment, let me know
what you think about this story, and uh
let's hear from Steve. Let's hear what
he has to say. I think this is pretty
damning. Have a look.

[Steve] When it comes to Donald Trump and
Jeffrey Epstein, the media is missing
the smoking gun. Now, I've sat on this
information for years, and I really
didn't want to get into this because
this is not in my job description, and
it's very dangerous to come out this
come out with this publicly.
The smoking gun is MissUSA and Miss Teen
USA, the pageantss, which Donald Trump
owned for years. Now, how do I know?
Because I was one of the judges in these
pageantss. I trained dozens and dozens
of the winners and the runners up in
public speaking to promote their
platform.
This is all I'm going to say about this.
If you're in the media and you're
looking for information,
start with Billy Bush. Billy Bush hosted
the MissUSA, Miss Teen USA multiple
times. Nancy Odell is another one. And
then go down the rabbit hole from there.
There are people that know a lot more
than those two. But start there. They're
celebrities. And start there. Go down
the rabbit hole. And I think what you're
going to find is going to be very, very
upsetting. Don't call me. I'm not going
to comment. I'm not going on TV and
talking about this. This is very
dangerous to sit on. If you decide to
pursue this in the media, be very, very
careful. These people are dangerous.

Wow. Um, I wish he would speak more
about it. He is hesitant. He seems
pretty nervous and only a few
publications I you know in research for
this video have covered this story have
covered this video but some explosive
things here and I was wondering in my
mind like who are the people he
mentioned and in my research I realized
remember this quote where Donald Trump
was saying you know I moved on her I
failed I did try and blank her she was
married I moved on her very heavily this
is that explosive tape that came out in
2016 of Donald Trump speaking in 2005
about a married woman she wanted to get
some furniture I said I'll show you
where they have some nice furniture. I
took her out. I moved on her like a but
I couldn't get there and she was
married. Then all of a sudden I see her
and now she's got these big, you know,
you've heard the quote before, but the
most infamous one in it, it says, you
know, you can do anything. You can grab
them by the blank. You can do anything.
So Trump admitting to assault and that
quote that Donald Trump said that to was
to Billy Bush,
the man who Steve just talked about.
That was said to Billy Bush. That's
first and foremost. And it was also said
about Nancy Odell. So these two people
that he mentioned that he's saying the
media should look into more are the two
people involved in that Hollywood Access
tape where Trump is saying awful things
about women talking disgustingly with
Billy Bush. And so I think both of them
who do have some connections to Donald
Trump and these beauty pageantss, maybe
somebody should reach out to them and
see what they have to say about this and
what they have to say about Trump and
the pageantss. But as I mentioned, I did
a deeper dive and I remember this story
that we covered on the show over the
summer and it's Donald Trump in 1991
when he was in the prime of being best
friends with Epstein judging a uh beauty
pageant that had participants as young
as 14 years old. So, we're talking about
beauty pageantss, the ones that Donald
Trump participated in, judge, hosted,
being the smoking gun. Well, there's
some evidence to back that up. Whether
Steve is being honest and telling the
truth about his experiences, which I for
so far don't have any reason to doubt,
but let's just say he is, the evidence
is still overwhelming for there being
some concerning things that Donald Trump
did. This is from Midas Touch. They
covered it over the summer. The date was
July 18th. It just came to my mind in
research for this video. Donald Trump
judges the 1991 look of the year
modeling competition organized by Elite
Model Management. Remember that name.
Featuring participants as young as 14
years old. A 2020 Guardian investigation
into Elites look of the year competition
uncovered allegations from former
contestants and industry insiders that
the competition was used by founder John
Kasablancis and others to engage in
inappropriate relationships with
vulnerable young models, some of whom
were teenagers. And again, the uh the
competition had people as young as 14
years old. And this is a video from that
competition I'm going to play very
briefly for you so you can see Trump
actually judging it. Just watch.
Contestants participated.
There he is. I don't even have to I
don't have to play it more. There's
Donald Trump.
Exhaustive round of personal interviews
designed to help our judges discover
what makes each one.
And there he is right there.
Serious, huh?
Okay. Okay.
And there he is right there. You can see
him. His dumb head. There he is. That's
Donald Trump judging these was intense.
There he is again
having conversations. So this is Donald
Trump judging these competitions. It
gets much worse because Elite is not a
good organization. Was not a good
organization. Here's some more info
regarding the alleged conduct of Elite's
boss, Gerald Marie, that occurred during
this 1991 look of the year event that
Donald Trump was at. This is from their
gu the Guardian investigation in 199 in
1991. The couple were among the
celebrity guests at the final look of
the year Elite's annual international
modeling contest in New York.
Evangelista wore her hair in a striking
red bob with a heavy fringe and towered
over Marie, that's Gerald Marie, the
boss of Elite, who wore a black suit and
tie. His hair sllicked back. Evangelista
joined Naomi Camel to present a prize
while Marie sat with fellow judges
Kasablances and Donald Trump. And there
are some incredibly serious allegations
against Elite. Not only um have five
women, according to the Guardian, come
forward to say that they were assaulted
by other men who worked with or for
Marie, some of them were as young as 15
years old. And Marie has had his own
allegations against him. This is
somebody that Donald Trump was
associating with judging the
competitions. And you can pause right
here um to read more if you'd like. But
I mean, for example, Swedish model Eba
Carlson, who was 20 in 1990, alleges
that she was assaulted that year by a
different elite scout and that days
later she was introduced to Marie, this
guy that Donald Trump was associated
with. Again, the boss of elite. Trump is
seen speaking here in the footage from
the 1990. There he is from the 1991 look
of the year. Quote, "A lookof of the
year contest is the ultimate contest for
women who want to go all the way in the
modeling business." Again, he's talking
about people as young girls as young as
14. The person all the way to the right
in this infamous photo of Donald Trump
and Epstein is John Kasablancas, the
founder of Elite Model Management, who
or organized the competition. There he
is hanging out with Trump and Epstein.
We really weird stuff going on here.
Despite the long day behind them and the
work that lay ahead, the girls just
didn't want to quit, says Donald Trump.
And of course, the Guardian
Investigation is a must-read. Elite
Models boss Gerald Marie was one of the
most powerful men in fashion. Was he
also a predator? As French prosecutors
investigate, four women tell their
stories for the first time. And there's
Donald Trump in the photo. More images
from the event where you can see very,
very young people. Very, very young
people. And these were the people that
Donald Trump was uh was judging was
judging. So point is, and by the way,
there's so much more than what we're
covering right now. There are so many
different clips of Donald Trump talking
about walking in on young women. He did
it on the Howard Stern show. I have a
clip here. It's it's long, but I'm sure
you've all heard the clip of Donald
Trump uh speaking about it. Let's see if
I can find it really here. Let's let's
just play it right here. I would create
a TV show for you where all you did was
just judge women.
Now, that may be the best idea of all.
It's a simple thing. It's a half hour
and we strip it out all over the
country.
I would say I'm the alltime judge.
You own this pageant. You go over, you
look, you're meeting the girls and one
of them comes up to you and says, "Mr.
Trump, you're very sexy man.
You're a beautiful man. You have
fantastic hair.
You're powerful man."
Right. Right. You're a powerful man.
I want to sleep with you.
Now, you're not the type that would say
no. I I don't want to hurt their
feelings,
right? No, but I mean, you see a
beautiful woman, you want to you want to
have that you're a guy who likes to have
everything, right?
Well, couldn't that be construed,
however, as um
conflict?
Yes.
I don't I don't see it as a god.
It could be a conflict of interest, but
you know, it's the kind of thing you
worry about later.
Oh, I see.
And it gets worse. You Oh my god, it
gets worse. So,
it could be the smoking gun. Point is, I
think there's a lot of evidence here.
It's something that maybe we should be
looking into. I'll look into I'll
continue to look into this but the
existing evidence to suggest something
I'm not again not proven we don't know
for sure not 100% but the evidence to
suggest that something is there I think
is pretty compelling so look I will
leave the video there thank you so much
for watching make sure to subscribe down
below uh drop a like on the video as
well comment let me know what you think
about this if you think there's any
credibility here whatsoever or you know
maybe it's just an overreaction you let
me know of course I would like to hear
from you but as I always say have an
amazing rest of your day and we will box
in.

Former models expose the ugly truth of the beauty industry | 60 Minutes Australia
by Tara Brown
60 Minutes Australia
May 16, 2021

First there was Harvey Weinstein, and then Jeffrey Epstein, two men so corrupted by their own power and money they thought it entitled them to sexually abuse any woman or teenager they lusted after. Now one of the icons of the world of modelling stands similarly accused of being a sex fiend. His name might not be familiar to those outside the beauty industry, but for decades Frenchman Gérald Marie, now aged 70, was the super-agent who decided, or torpedoed, the careers of supermodels. He even married one of the most famous of them all, Linda Evangelista. But a 60 MINUTES global investigation has uncovered more than a dozen former models with shocking accusations about him. They say he’s a predator who ritually abused and raped young women – including minors. As Tara Brown reports, the women are now demanding that Gérald Marie be held accountable for his depravity, and it seems prosecutors in France are finally taking notice.



Transcript

Good evening and welcome to 60 minutes I'm Tara Brown first there was Harvey
Weinstein and then Jeffrey Epstein two men so corrupted by their own power and
money they thought it entitled them to sexually abuse any woman or teenager
they wanted now one of the biggest icons of modeling stands similarly accused of
being a Sex Fiend you mightn't recognize his name but for decades Frenchman Gerald Marie
was the super agent who decided or torpedoed the careers of supermodels he
even married one of the most famous of them all Linda Evangelista but our Global investigation
has uncovered more than a dozen former models with shocking accusations about
the 70-year-old they say he's a predator who ritually abused and raped young women
including minors in his care tonight they're demanding Gerald Marie
be held accountable for his [Music]
depravity irresistibly drawn in by the bright lights and alluring promises
stunning girls parade the catwalk recognized and celebrated for their
beauty but the glamour can be model thin wer grab a brush and put a little
makeup as all these former models discovered making it into the coveted world of runways and magazine covers can
be an ugly business hello ladies welcome to 60
minutes thank you for joining us they've come from all over the world to find one
another I'm in Boulder Colorado I'm in London UK Western Europe aahu Hawaii
Brisbin Australia sharing the same shocking EXP experiences of intimidation
sexual harassment and rape when they first started out as models in Paris I
knew he had all the power and I was a foreigner I was all alone I knew enough
to know I didn't have a chance and they were also the victims they alleg of the
same man the former head supro of the elite modeling agency in Europe Gerald
Marie the agent behind the biggest models in the world he attacked me in
the middle of the night and he raped me in the middle of the night I had no
power I had no voice I said the word
no now decades later for the first time it was almost like this was his kingdom
this was his domain these women have come together for one reason to make
Gerald Marie accountable i p of oop it is my hope that Geral
would experience what any predator should experience and that is
prosecution and incarceration I like other things we've uncovered hidden camera footage locked
away for the last 20 years which exposes Gerald Marie's lascivious
appetite with allegations too serious for French investigators to ignore could
time be up for the once untouchable Geral Marie we're not 17 anymore we're
not children anymore we're adults and we know what happened to us and we do know
who did it ah Mr Marie 60 Minutes Australia 12 women have spoken about
sexual is there anything you'd like to say Mr [Music]
[Music] Marie it was the era of the
supermodel with French model impressario Gerald Marie almost single-handedly
transforming top models into worldwide Superstars he even married one Canadian
Beauty Linda [Music] Evangelista being an agent in the 80s
was so spectacular and exciting and glamorous money was everywhere and we
made lots of it as vice president of elite Chicago in
the 80s Marie P Anderson reveled in those heady days and as part of the
elite company she happily and unwittingly sent American models to
Elite's Uber agent jald Marie and his star Factory in Paris when you meet a
lot of beautiful girls all day long come pop out because they have something else to say or something else is happening in
their eyes and in the their way to express himself too Gerald then in his
mid-30s was at the top of his game with an eye and as he would be accused a
creepy ponant for young models slowly but surely I was getting phone calls
from Europe from the models complaining about Gerald Marie and telling me
stories of either sexual harassment or sexual assault and they would swear me to
secrecy so I never betrayed their trust how many girls did you get calls from my
memory serves um four to five girls in
1986 unaware of those calls a gorgeous and vulnerable 17-year-old kotas was on
her way to Paris deemed too exotic for the American Market the young Runaway
was sent to try out for the masterful Gerald Marie I had no idea what to find
what to expect and really when I was told I would be staying at the boss's
apartment you know naively I thought that might be a really good thing maybe somebody saw something special in me so
when you first met Gerald Marie what was your impression of him he was
intense he he wasn't a a warm open
Friendly guy um it was very businesslike he was very cold um yeah I felt
definitely inferior Carrie is Now 51 and lives in
Boulder Colorado with her husband and two daughters today Paris is a long way away
except in her memory let's be quiet for a moment she says she can never eras
from her mind the night Gerald Marie still
married to supermodel Linda Evangelista at the time toward came into her room
and attacked her I remember I came back after a full
day of castings and was cold and felt terrible and went to bed and it was at
some point in the night that I woke up with Gerald on top of me and forcing
himself on me and I did my best to try to fight him off and I remember a
certain moment of of completely giving up of being completely terrified and
completely ashamed um and so immediately after that attack what did he say to
you almost shaming
um rather cruel and no conversation you know there
was nothing there was of course no apology it was just business as usual moving right
along but trapped by her circumstances Carrie says business as usual now meant
she was at Marie's toxic whim forced as she was to stay in his apartment
how many times did he attack you you know I don't know the number I
know that it was over months and he held the cards he held the power you know I
didn't have a parent to call at that time I didn't have money of my own um I
didn't have you know a roof over my own head everything was dependent upon him
and and him giving it to me and looking back I was I was a perfect Target for so
many reasons I respected
him I was a bit afraid of him because he had so much power he was the adult in
the room and I was the teenager Wendy Walsh was 18 when she
first went to Paris to try modeling It Was 1980 and back then Gerald Marie was
the head of the Paris planning agency which was later merge with Elite as so many others attest Gerald
used a well-oiled Roose to get Wendy alone her female Booker was asked to set
up a meeting one day at the agency Pamela slipped me a piece of
paper with an address on it and said Gerald wants to see you bring your
portfolio he wants to talk to you tonight at his apartment like Carrie Wendy's account of
what happened at that so-called meeting is harrowing he grabbed my
breast and he grabbed my hips and he said I like this I like this he took my
hand and he took me into a little bedroom off the kitchen and he laid me on the
bed and I I was
frozen I managed to say I'm not I'm not on the pill and he
laughed and he said oh really I'm not on the pill
either and then so quickly he turned me over I felt him sliding my jeans down
and I'm like what the heck I turned and looked over my
shoulder and said no
and he spit in his hand put the saliva on his
penis and raped me
anally and I didn't tell anybody about this
for nearly 40
years must be very difficult for you to retell it again now what made you stay
silent for so long I felt
stupid I felt ashamed while these alleged attacks
happen behind closed doors by 1998 rumors of abuse were Rife prompting an
undercover team of journalists to investigate what they
recorded has been buried for the last 20 years that tape is absolutely crucial
[Music]
evidence this is it the Elite model look contest
the biggest most prestigious of its kind it was 1998 and a groundbreaking investigation
was underway into rumors of sexual abuse and rape of young models by one of the
modeling agency greats the president of Paris Elite Gerald Marie no one had come
forward officially but I had been told by people in the industry that he he he
dis abuse um young women and teenage girls freelance journalist Lisa
brinkworth took her story to the BBC and eminent documentary maker Donal
McIntyre their ambition was to uncover the suspected exploitation behind the
glamour industrywide so for a year Lisa went undercover as a model and Donal as
a fashion photographer give me access to photographing Naomi Campbell Kate Moss
some of the worst photographs ever taken of some of the most beautiful women in the world and uh I just blagged my way
in and um told a few tall stories and next thing uh I knew I was in the
company of um some of the most powerful and I would say dangerous men in the
industry this is ma my friend ma from Ireland pleas very quickly Donal going
under the name of Mac McIntyre got very close to old Marie I like other things
you know what I mean Geral Marie it was quite clear that sex was on the agenda all the time my man I love you so these
guys their average night out was either if they're not with their mods young and
old on the table drinking having cocaine they're going to brothel and having
cocaine or drugs or doing whatever else they do you know I have a little problem here right these guys were in locco
Parental they're in the role of a
parent this is the first time this undercover footage has been seen in 20
years a legal case bearing it for the past two
decades here Gerald is leeringly referring to an elite look of the Year contest which saw girls as young as 13
and 14 comp compete to win a modeling contract but it was Gerald's plans for
the most beautiful of them that was stomach turning Miss I come with a big boat we just get off the boat to go and
look at the girls this and that and oh you and you and you I always have a couple of friends in there you know
girls they bring then we are this street no Pap we
witnessed the culture a culture of sex we heard them talk about in the most graphic terms we talked about the Elite
model look contest in nce as an opportunity for him um to uh enjoy the
company uh sexual company of uh of underage girls it was quite clear no
parents no no no parents in the boar chaperon Geral Marie says yes their
words they're embarrassing words but that's all they are it was like locker room talk boys talk do you accept that
as a defense I don't accept that at all and I think the testimony of uh the
women in around that world uh kind of kind of paints a very different
interpretation of that while Donal was shocked by what he saw and heard never did the undercover
team expect that one of their own would become one of Gerald Marie's alleged victims I didn't want to be a victim I
wanted to be the journalist exposing this guy so that was really um it was very traumatic playing
the role of model Lisa brinkworth managed to snag an invitation to one of Marie's regular
dinners night after night young models from the agency were required to dine
with Marie and his businessman friends the conversation at the table
was incredibly offensive to these young girls um really bad language lots of
sexual innuendo then Gerald Marie turned his attention to Le
just you and I alone I know we're going to have a great time and we're going to feel great and and then in front of the
table of people offered to pay Lisa for
sex I still didn't feel uh afraid um all I thought was I'm getting all of this on
camera um and you know he's exactly the person that we'd been told he was and
this is all really good evidence for us but what happened next was not caught
on tape with Lisa's hidden camera accidentally knocked out of the way
despite the public setting Lisa says Gerald unexpectedly and shockingly
jumped her completely out of the blue he walked over to me straddled me on my
chair um pinned me down to the chair I couldn't move and I could feel he he he
has an erection and he was thrusting him himself um into my abdomen and just
simulating sex it was the most horrific thing and I I couldn't get him off me and I
was absolutely terrified I thought I was going to be raped and um the worst thing
about this was that that's the thing that gets me every time actually that it
that where all these men sat around laughing sorry it's okay
sorry it was that's that was almost the worst
part of it no no one helped me
um and it was so normal it was so normal to them can you tell me what you
witnessed in regards to his behavior towards Lisa I saw him Mount Lisa we
were in uh a nightclub brothel and I saw Mount Lisa and uh thrust into her want
the assault included in our program why didn't you want that included in the BBC
documentary there was a lot of sh I felt really ashamed um I didn't tell my
family I didn't tell anybody I didn't want my parents seeing this I I didn't tell anybody was your intention to
actually report the assault I wanted to um but in that room that night I was
um I was directed not to report it at the time
because it would cut short our investigation um and in my shock and in
my trauma I I I went along with that how do you now view the direction that you were
given not to report this to police given what the subject matter was of your documentary yeah now I realize that
actually that would have been crucial um that should have happened it should have been
reported Gerald Marie would later deny the assault but in 1999 the BBC ran its
expose of the fashion industry with Gerald Marie's bad behavior around young
models front and center 1130 11:30 I'll see you for 11:30 bye the worldwide condemnation was
damning and the reign of Gerald Marie was judged to be over but not for
long the industry you know didn't just forgive him they didn't convict him they
gave him more business and he continued to make millions over the next uh two
decades Paris is the fashion capital of the world the epitome of Glamour success
and power but in 1999 the BBC uncovered its
sleazy side broadcast casting a year-long investigation into the modeling industry I of posing as a
fashioned photographer journalist Donal McIntyre soon had his biggest catch in
Gerald Marie my friend fromel the head of the elite modeling agency in Paris
bragging about his plans to have sex with underage models there we [Music]
are there were headlines across the world but when you hear it and when you see it
from the mouth of one of the most powerful men in the industry then I think that present a truly shocking
picture of fashion and the men in fashion to the world the reaction was immediate the
disgraced Gerald Marie was suspended from his job at Elite the biggest modeling agency in the world it was a
significant and prized scalp it was quite clear that Jo Marie w was at the
top of the totem pole he was one of the most powerful and dangerous perpetrators
of abuse that was the allegation but very quickly Elite went on the attack
suing the BBC for liel and dishonest editing seeking millions in
Damages Donal concedes producers made one questionable edit where a model's
comments from two interviews were sliced together to make it look like the one
interview the BB was accused of unethical editing for which it apologized was that a tactic used to
paint Gerald Marie in a certain negative light no I think I the the the specific
edits which the BBC were I think overly embarrassed by didn't change the truth of it it didn't went nowhere to the
truth of what had happened initially the BBC chose to
fight Elites legal claim relying on whistleblower Omar Hau
an executive from within Elite itself to prove the documentary had revealed the
truth it changed my life when I decided to tell the truth to the BBC I lived
three of the worst years of my life after
that Omar hauch is an intriguing character a trained concert pianist and
Wealthy businessman with a seemingly unshakable honest streak
he was the lensee of the elite look of the Year contest in Ukraine but was
appalled by Jal Marr's treatment of the young contestants my first impression about
him was that he's sexual predator he used to touch the girls he used to show them that he's the one who decide that
if they are nice to him they can have a a career they can win the contest also
and I said to the girl that it's not normal you you're not obliged to sleep with anybody did you ever confront
Gerald Marie about his behavior of course I confront Gerald Marie about his behavior several times he was not afraid
he he was like why you're homosexual he was saying that said no I'm not homosexual you don't like girls of
course I do I do but the these girls they their family they send it uh send
them to us because they trust us as a star witness for the BBC Omar
claims the pressure on him became personal and menacing so much so the BBC
supplied him with bodyguards did Gerald Marie ever threaten you Gerald Marie he
treated me uh twice once in a restaurant and uh in Paris and uh second time it
was uh uh uh over the phone when he told me that uh I'm finished and uh something
like that just for clarification did Gerald Marie ever threaten your life yes
Geral Mar read it in my life that was very clear to you very very it was very clear Omar Hao says he was only ever
describing what others had also observed or overheard another former Insider Marie P
Anderson once vice president of elite Chicago left the company in disgust in
1990 it was on hearing a heated conversation between two female
Executives Gerald Marie and the founder of a late John
Casablancas the women were trying to protect the youngest of their models I'm
now hearing the the women begging the men to stop sleeping with the 13 and 14y
olds and Geral with his Paris accent says uh Girls We Are Men we have our
needs and John's response was come on stop being so puritanical it's no big
deal and I would I I was so stunned listening to that
conversation I had to get up and leave and I quit Elites because I didn't want to be part of that
organization if this is the culture that I have to work within inside of an
agency I don't want to be part of an agency so I quit the business
boom it's like a a big doesn't
C it was that toxic culture that freelance journalists Donald McIntyre
and Lisa brinkworth exposed so extensively in their documentary but ultimately the BBC
backed down apologized for its editing error and signed an agreement to never
rerun the footage and in doing so sidestepped a potentially massive payout
with the settlement yeah it was business as usual after that the decision to settle was a blow and
betrayal so then when elak decided to Sue how do you view the BBC's response
there wasn't a single inaccuracy in the entire documentary the footage was
robust it was fine you have got a few inappropriate and poor edits uh
acknowledge that uh on one side nothing which went to the truth of the investigation whatsoever and you've got
these predatory males admitting what they've done telling the world this is their culture this is their ethos this
is the world they operate in when they look at after young models no
contest was fired wasn't he and he was reinstated with the settlement things settled down yeah Gerald Marie got his
job back and with it his glamorous life but now two decades on French
prosecutors have launched a criminal investigation into allegations of rape
child rape and sexual assault and Marie may not get a second
chance not if former Top Model kotus his victim
and greatest pursuer gets her way it's really important in this world that
criminals that rapists that you know sex offenders don't keep getting away just
because of their position of
power Paris la lawyer Anne CLA leun has a big job
ahead She carries the hopes of women from all over the world desperate for
[Music] justice they have claimed to an active
criminal investigation in France they were the sexual assault victims of
former modeling agent great Gerald Marie can you tell me how many women do you
represent in this investigation into Geral maray well I'm representing
14 women but I have been contacted by uh some other women um they are not ready
to speak up not yet how many extra women are talking to you privately I can say
more or less uh 12 on top of the 14 you're representing yeah absolutely do
you believe the women of course I do of course I do when you cross check the
deposit I and the story of every woman you can see uh you know the same details
the same moderandi uh it's uh it's real we have no doubt about
that while the 1999 BBC documentary exposed Gerald Marie's sleazy Behavior
the women he's accused of attacking were then too terrified to talk to see you
here today is extraordin does today they have found their voice and their
allegations chillingly mirror each others all say they were attacked by
Gerald six say they were raped I was 20 and I had only had one boyfriend
before I was extremely naive and I was trusting for Jill Dodd it was 40 years
ago and it started with Gerald Marie kissing her after a night out with
others I felt comfortable with him I didn't know that I should be worried and then he kissed me
again and then he physically grabbed me
flipped me over onto my H hands and knees and raped me from
behind violently and I was screaming to stop and no and he he would he I
couldn't get it I couldn't get away the sudden and unexpected nature of
the attack on Jill is something all these women describe shaa if I can go to
you you were 15 I think when you met Gerald Marie I was flown to Paris for
the summer and the agent that met with my family said that there would be a
shop or own in an apartment and that I would be taken care of there would be nothing to worry about but like all the
former models here at the time the teenage Shauna Lee was required to
attend almost nightly industry parties with Gerald and his business
friends at the end of one such night Gerald offered to drive Shauna to her
apartment instead he took her to his I just started yelling at him and telling
him that he was going the wrong way and that that wasn't the way the direction of my apartment and he just didn't
listen and then we got to his apartment and he just kind of pounced on me and he
was on top of me and then his tongue was in my mouth and I just didn't know what to do I just froze I didn't have
any I didn't have any experience with anyone I'm sorry that's
okay is this really painful to talk
about I just and I told the model in the
apartment and he brought me into his office and he called me out on the rape and he said what are you going to do go
home and flip Burgers it was like a horrible humiliating experience I just felt so violated and
you know I mean he was older than my father at the time I mean I was 15 he was like 42 years old I never saw it
coming so he rapes you and then he threatens you uh with your career if you
dare tell anyone yeah basically he was well he was laughing about it like he thought it was a joke oh my gosh uh
first of all thank you shaa for sharing your story because it was the first time I heard it and it breaks my
heart in 1990 Swedish model EBA cson was 20 when she was called into Gerald
Marr's office and he pulled out all these portfolios with all the beautiful women and some of them were Swedish and
he said do you know who these women are and I'm like oh yes of course they're famous
and as he said do you know what they did to earn six figures and as he did that
he shoved his hand up my skirt into my vagina with his hand and I felt like somebody just
chopped my head off because I didn't I just like I was so shocked I I just
froze and I pulled away and I'm like I didn't know what to do how to
react and I went out of the office and I just sat outside the office on the
street on a bench and cried EJ Moran's account is strikingly
familiar ordered to attend dinner and then given some work rated excuse taken
back to Gerald's apartment I didn't want to go to his apartment um at all but he
was my boss once I got upstairs um he basically threw me on the
bed and and put his hand over my face
and held me down and started calling me all kinds of names in a low horrible
voice and he raped me violently and he was horrible I knew I couldn't report it
I I I I knew he had all the power and I was a foreigner I was all alone I didn't
speak very much French I was in his apartment um you know I I I knew enough
to know I didn't have a chance on her first night in Paris Paula Thomas 17 at
the time was asleep when Gerald Marie the boss she'd not yet met crept into
her apartment in the middle of the night I woke up to a man sitting on top of me
um the bed sheets were pulled down and I heard him say to me um welcome to Paris
Paula it's Geral um I was in complete shock obviously um
I'd just woken up from sleep and I'd never met Gerald before he did actually
stop uh and he did actually leave the room but at that point I was just shaking and didn't really know what to
do or what to say a few weeks in another attack this time in Gerald's office he pressed
himself up against me and he pushed me up against the filing cabinet and he had an erection and he basically said if you
want to be paid you're going to have to have sex with me and uh I pushed him off
and um left the building as quickly as I could Lori maren was told she had an
enormous future as a model did anyone warn you that you may also become prey
in this world no I I I went into it very
wide-eyed and just you know happy but Lui now a psychologist based
in Brisbane felt the full brunt of saying no to Gerald Marie It All
Happened very quickly but he just pushed me through a door um into another room
onto a bed and he landed on top of me and um he's grabbing my breasts and he
was pulling up my skirt and then I realized that I was in big trouble that
that I was going to get raped so um you know I started struggling more and more
and shouting at him to stop Lori says Gerald was deaf to her
please but she somehow managed to get out from under him and run from the room
in retribution Gerald cancelled Lor's next three cover Shoots for the highly
sought after El magazine a message her career at the late modeling agency was
now dead he got off the phone he hung up and he turned to me and he said they're
canceled and I said what's cancelled and he said your L trips and I said well
which one and he said all of them so I um you know that was sort of
like the second the second punch you know it was like there was the attack and then there
was then there was you know this sort of sabotaging me um in my career and it was that was actually the
point where I I was overwhelmed Lori went on to have a great
career with another agency but it was a pattern of payback that Gerald seemed to
use on those who rejected or confronted him and it wasn't just against
women a former Elite Insider Omar hao suffered years of untruthful attacks on
his reputation for daring to speak out against Gerald Marie for which he
successfully sued Marie Omar has now met with French
prosecutors to support the 14 former models who accused Gerald Marie of
sexual assault and rape I am talking for only one reason first I want the truth
to be known I want that everybody believe these girls because I saw what
was going on and because I want these girls to know that they are not
alone the French investigation was launched in September last year in response to written allegations made by
the women in this story but their greatest legal challenge is that the
statute of limitations the 20 years in which to make a complaint to the courts
has expired for lawyer an CLA Lun it's therefore critical the more recent
victims she has spoken to come forward well the prosecutor has been quoted as
saying that it is important to investigate so that there are no forgotten victims you must find that
very encouraging yeah absolutely and you know then we need uh all the victims to
to come forward it's very hard to con convince them to speak up
unable to have charges brought against Gerald Marie because of the length of time that has passed these women will be
considered vital Witnesses in the current criminal investigation but their determination in
facing down one of the most powerful players in the industry and demanding change industrywide cannot be
underestimated for you personally to take the testimonials of these women
what has that been like for you to see them now come together like this and put their names and their faces to this
fight for justice they are very courageous it's an amazing work and I know it's I I know it's not easy but um
yeah it's because of her that uh we can get people convicted so they Heroes to
you yes they are heroes absolutely we set the word of
[Music] and now this neverbe seen videotape I mean I was trying to push him off I
couldn't could be the legal breakthrough that could change everything and he had an erection he was pushing it into me
and and thrusting and it was just absolutely [Music]
horrific the time I was in shock I came back here for Absolut were
violated um I just B I didn't want to but I burst
into tears un professional about this footage has never been seen before Lisa
brinkworth made this recording in the moments immediately after she says she
was sexually assaulted in 1999 just all of a sudden he just came
over and he was on top of me he straddled me pushed himself and pinned me to the
Chan Lisa alleges her attacker was BigTime model agent Gerald Marie who was unaware
that she was an undercover freelance journalist posing as a model it was just
absolutely horrific it was um there sing other experience to R Lisa
was investigating Marie for a BBC documentary after being tipped off by models that he was a Serial sex abuser
never did she expect to be one of his alleged victims nor did she ever expect
to see this tape again buried as it was by the BBC the BBC locked away the recording
when it settled a Lial suit brought by the elite modeling agency what really hit him was that there was a 16-year-old
and 17-year-old on the table unbelievably the tape resurfaced when the BBC inadvertently gave it to another
journalist in early 2019 so that was not absolute shock to
me to hear a woman who I never met didn't know just telling me about what
she just witnessed on this tape the shock was made Greater by the fact despite many requests the BBC won't give
Lisa the tape citing legal reasons it refuses to release it without her
signing a gag order that tape immediately following the assault is
absolutely crucial evidence we the obtained the vision from a confidential source and according to
lawyer an Clair leun the tape could prove the turning point in the case
against Gerald Marie because it has been hidden away for so long Lisa was denied the
opportunity to use it as evidence of Marie's alleged assault before the
statute of limitations was reached it's hoped because of that lost opportunity
the legal time limit cannot apply to Lisa if you can convince the prosecutor
and the courts that the statute of limitations needed to be paused in Lisa's case what does that do for your
case it means that uh Jal Mari could be officially charged for sexual assault so
it will be a great victory of course Lisa BR brr could probably get
Justice and that means more than ever before the legal net seems to be closing in on
Gerald Marie at 70 Gerald lives on the Spanish island of AA the holiday destination of
the Rich and Famous it's here that he has a luxurious
clifftop home and far away from the current French investigation he lunches
by the beach most days and lives a lavish life built off the back of the lucrative modeling industry
still a very active businessman still enjoying the vast wealth and fruits of
his trade and um until very recently anyway still actively involved um in the
fashion [Music]
industry much to the disappointment of the documentary undercover team Donal
McIntyre and Lisa brinkworth Gerald Marie continued to work for elite Europe
until 2011 and then we Model Management until
a year ago he brazened it out I mean what I what I could understand continues working with models all these years
Gerald Marie has always denied all of the allegations of sexual assault and
rape and was Vindicated when the BBC backed down and settled the Lial claim
brought against them by Elite but the allegations won't go away I watched as
girls came in and slept with him and then were passed around middleaged men
everybody could see what he was doing everybody could see that he was abusing his power to former model kotas who says
Marie raped her multiple times when she was 17 he represents the worst of the
industry what's been normal ized is horrific and and at this point you know
we say it is like the wild west you know the modeling industry is totally
unregulated despite the fact we have Decades of allegations and Decades of
complaints and and it's time there's a collective rising up and people want to
tell their stories and they want real lasting change our repeated requests for an
interview with with Gerald have been ignored agreeing to put the allegations
directly to Gerald on our behalf and unrestricted by Co travel bans ah Mr
Marie Donald McIntyre 60 Minutes Australia Donald McIntyre traveled to
ather to confront the man he hasn't seen in 20 years thank you very much or we
call the police Mr Marie call the police do you realize the French prosecutors have got 14 women charging you making
ations for assault and sexual assault Mr Marie six women are accusing you of rape
you have anything to say it appears Gerald Marie does not remember Donal and isn't bothered in the slightest by the
allegations against him nor the French criminal investigation it's enough it's
not enough it's enough say this say this to the women who claim he's raped and
sexually assaulted is this not a problem to you please leave us alone he even feels compelled to make fun of McIntyre
about what he's wearing dress like the priest but he doesn't know Mr Marie it's no time for joking this is no laughing
matter let it completely unfazed Gerald continues eating and mocking D have a
beautiful day enjoy you do beautiful
night Hallelujah and we you have nothing better to do but Gerald Marie may not so easily
ignore the women he is accused of hurting they plan to travel Co
permitting to Paris to give their testimonies in person to the prosecutor so the
investigation can
progress they believe that there are others out there who should do the
same end all your stories have been incredibly compelling and yet Gerald
Marie continues toy that he harassed you or raped you or hurt you or ended your
careers you know he he denies it he says it's rubbish um what what do you say to
him we'll see about that we'll see about that we're not 17 anymore we're not
children anymore we're adults and we know what happened to us so um we'll see
you in court I understand how scary it is to
come forward we are stronger in numbers and there are other women that
are available to support women that are coming forward for the first time so I think anything is possible I
don't think this show is [Music]
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-- Gérald Marie: Former models expose the ugly truth of the beauty industry, by 60 Minutes Australia